Beyonce Not Oscar Worthy?

If you all here remember, I predicted some weeks ago that Beyonce Knowles would surely win an Oscar, not for acting, but for co-writing the song “Listen” for the “Dreamgirls” soundtrack.Well it looks like that will not be happening as The Academy has deemed her ineligible.Apparently there is some old and sacred rule that says no more than 3 statuettes can be given out for songwriting and thus they will only be recognizing Henry Krieger, Anne Preven and Scott Cutler for the song.The Academy gave no reason for their decision and I am sure we will here cries of outrage and condemnation from Beyonce’s fans, but I will have to side with The Academy on this one and I will tell you why.

Some years ago while doing an interview Beyonce stated she was the writer of X (( I can’t remember the exact number or find the article at this moment.)) number of Destiny’s Childs #1 singles.This caught the writer off guard and he went about doing his homework and later noted how none of the singles she wrote listed her as the sole writer but often had as many as 7 or 8 other people listed as songwriter also.Now we all know 7 or 8 people didn’t really write the song but rather added a word or two here and there and thus qualified for a writing credit.The Academy however is not the RIAA or The Grammys and will not be crediting bit writers and that is what I believe Beyonce was to this song and why they left her out.

I never believed Beyonce was a songwriter in the true sense of what we think a songwriter to be.When I think of a songwriter I think of Diane Warren, Babyface, Roberta Flack, Stevie Wonder, Smokey Robinson and Prince.Beyonce is this new age songwriter who fancies herself a writer because she adds bits and pieces to songs.Many artists do this today and then call themselves songwriters (( Ala Jennifer Lopez who actually called herself a songwriter for that garbage of a song “Dear Ben”)) to add credibility to their careers.Unfortunately for Beyonce The Academy wasn’t having it.

Now a part of me definitely feels bad for Beyonce because I believe “Listen” is a shoe in for “Best Original Song” and so do many others.But this is one time where backstage wheeling and dealing cannot save her.It was already reported that Beyonce’s contract called for her to be pushed as Lead Actress only, to the detriment of Jennifer Hudson who actually is the lead.But it appears The Academy is having none of that when it comes to handing out Oscars for songwriting.I also doubt she will be nominated for lead actress either and the chance of her beating such reputable actresses as Dame Judy Dench and Meryl Streep are zero to none even if she is nominated.

Beyonce need not sweat this snub as I am sure she will see many awards for her participation in “Dreamgirls”.She and the entire cast did an excellent job and are expected to sweep The Golden Awards later on this month- as well they should.

Btw, here are pics of Jay and Beyonce taken in The Dominican Republic over the holidays.I know many sites posted these already but I didn’t want to until I had the HQ images to share with you guys.

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91 Comments

  1. Damn I didn’t see that one coming.Beyonce must be fuming right now.Listen is a beautully written song and Beyonce tore it up.She will most likely sing it at the Oscar telecast and then watch as the other three walk away with the trophy.That is going to be a bitter pill to swallow.I remember Beyonce stating she wanted to win an Oscar, Grammy and some other awards and I was so sure she was going to get that Oscar this year.Too bad for her.The only thing that will ease her pain is if the song doesn’t win for best original song.

  2. That’s only fair, I truly didn’t see that happening anyway. Too much hype and not enough to back it up. In my opinion, the song is rather bland, content and all. I just don’t get it.

  3. No you have not spoken against the great and alimight Beyonce.Girl her fans gonna be all over your ass before nightfall. :lol2:

  4. Who is to say Beyonce was the bit writer in this song? Why is it just assumed she offered the least when it came to writing this song?

  5. Oh yeah, I smell some hate and favortism on the part of the Oscar board.

  6. Nobody but her die hard fans will complain because we all know Beyonce isn’t a real songwriter.She’s more a song stylist.Her Dad can have a name attached to as many songs as he likes but she will never garner fame as a songwriter until she goes it alone.Even if it is a booty anthem she will need to write something all by herself and have it become a hit before she will get respect as a writer.

  7. People assume that Beyonce is the “bit writer” because she has proven herself as someone who takes undue credit. In many interviews Beyonce claims that she wrote the song “Resentment” and speaks about what the “pocess” was like and how she came up with the song. The song was actually originally written for Posh Spice who recorded it. The song was then recorded by Jazmin Sullivan, and then Beyonce. Beyonce LITERALLY changed approx. 4 lines in the whole song. Officially this enough to get writing credit but, in my own opinion is not enough to claim you created the song. She took credit for being the songwriter for Destiny’s Child when other writers wrote those songs and she contributed minimally. Check it out.

  8. Maybe the oscar ppl felt 3 six mafia had met their Black quota for the next few years 🙄

  9. If Beyonce contributed even one word to that song then she needs to be standing up on that podium too if it wins.Why must we always fight to bring our own day.I’m shocked to see this blog that claims to stick up for Black women write this garbage.Beyonce is a Black woman making in a world that is cold and cruel people of color, women especially.We should be there to support her not tear her simply because we hate her for no reason at all.This is why we as a people can’t get anywhere.We too busy tearing each other down every chance we get.

  10. Bee may deserve a writing credit, I don’t know.But I think the Oscar folk kicked her to the curb because of her shady history of taking full credit for things she maybe shouldn’t have taken full credit for.There was quite a uproar some years back as to whether she was really the writer of all those songs but it blew over.I think that hoopla came back to bite her now.Not to mention there was no way the Oscar people were going to boot any of the other three well established Score writers for Beyonce.

  11. Oh c’mon…I love B just as much as any other fan but credit is due where credit is due. If she had just as much input in writing the song as the other three individuals you can bet your last dollar that her camp (mom & dad) would be fighting The Academy’s decision. She would be one of the party of three and not excluded. It is obvious she didn’t have as much input as the other writers. She is young, talented and determined so she will have another opportunity to win an Oscar. I don’t think it is a black thing as Ressie would have us believe. Rules are rules and they apply to ALL…ncluding Beyonce.

  12. I guess nothing can be done if that’s what the rules state and the Academy probably had a reason for imposing such a rule.I hear in the past too many people were getting awards for writing one little song and they wanted to cut out that type of obvious foolishness.Too bad Beyonce was the one cut though because Listen is a great song snd she sung the hell outta that joint.I think something should be given to the singers as well and not just the composers.Songs are just words on paper until a singer brings them to life.For too long singers have been left out and treated as if their contribution means nothing.I hope in the future singers get some recognition too. :thumbsdown:

  13. IS THERE NO ONE HERE WILLING TO STAND UP FOR THIS SISTA? NO WONDER WE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HEAP.OUR JEALOUSY OF THOSE WHO ARE SUCCESSFUL WILL ALWAYS LEAD US TO BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF TEARING THEM DOWN.:mad:

  14. Why do WE have to stand up for her? Standing up for her is the job of her high priced lawyers and the label (Sony) that she works for. Her history is quite peppered with a lot of shady behind the scenes activity anyway. When you do a lot of dirt, don’t expect to stay clean all the time. After 3-6 Mafia(sp) won last year for an Oscar, please do not think that every black artist will be a shoe in for another one. “Listen” is an okay song for some, but come on… think like a typical Academy voter. I think her dad has p#ss#d far too many folks off trying to force feed us this constant diet of Beyonce. WE need more variety in our artists, that speak the heart of what is really going on with us as a community. Our black consciousness needs to be shaken up some more, not our booties.:brownsista:

  15. Everyone knows that Beyonce is known as a bit writer. Many writers and critics have stated that she takes credits for writing songs that you and me can write. Anyone can drop 2 or 3 lines in a song and take almost sole credit for writing the song.

    I’ve also heard it’s because of her dad the reason she always take credit for writing songs. Because he says that’s where the money is in writing songs. Not singing it.

    I’m sure the other 3 people wrote majority of the song the reason they were nominated. She will be okay everyone; she has plenty awards and she will receive others in the future.

    But her acting SUCKS. (I had to say that)

  16. Oracle your hate of Beyonce is showing.Throwing in that low jab at the end about her not being able to act gave you away.Let’s face it, Beyonce will never be able to do anything right in the eyes of those who hate her.Most of you probably squirted all over yourselves when you heard she had been disqualified.This however will not stop her.Beyonce is a beautiful and talented Black woman who is reaching heights no female artist before her ever did.That is something we should be proud of, not seek to tear down.

  17. EVERYBODY WHO DISLIKES BEYONCE IS NOT A HATER. HELL, SHE CAN’T WIN EVERYTHING. THE PURPOSE OF THIS BLOG IS FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE AN OPINION AND JUST BECAUSE EVERYBODY ISN’T SINGING HER PRAISES DOES NOT MEAN IT’S ABOUT JEALOUSY AND HATING, SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST NOT FANS. I DON’T FEEL THAT ANYONE IS TEARING HER DOWN BY EXPRESSING HOW THEY FEEL. AND I DON’T FEEL THAT WE SHOULD ALWAYS SUPPORT PEOPLE JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK.

    :brownsista:

  18. Amen to that Ms. Jay. I don’t even like to speak on her anymore. I am not a fan of hers, but it is so funny that this is the topic b/c i used to label her as a great songwriter & performer. I don’t necessarily care for her personality, she seems a bit shady to me. I haven’t met her but just from facial expressions & interviews I think she may be shady. I also agree that nont everyone is a hater. I ‘m sorry, the girl is beautiful and can put on a great show for your money, but she is human and subject to failure, NOT EVERY ONE HAS TO LIKE HER. IT’S A SHAME THAT WHOEVER DOESN’T LIKE HER HAS TO TAKE ABUSE!!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

  19. So if rapper Khia shows her face in a movie, gets Oscar-nominated I should support that as a Black woman?! How about I support Angela Bassett or Kimberly Elise who, if the Academy recognized them, would DESERVE an Oscar because they are truly talented actresses? I think I’ll go for that, thanks!

  20. Yall some hating ass people.Why is it people seem to take such joy in trying to bring this woman down? Are the women jealous because she is beautiful? Are you guys made cause she would never date yo broke asses? Keep on hating cause one little awards show snubbing on will not stop the Beyonce train from rolling right one.Keep talking bout her cause you making her more and more famous.Her talent is amazing which is alot more than can be said for people like Britney and JLO who also dominate the media.Bee has earned hers and we shoul celebrate that.But noep, we too hating for that.We wanna down her cause we jealous we ain’t living the life she and Jay are.You fools are mad.I swore I wouldn’t even waste my time but damn enough is enough of this mess. 😡

  21. You have to remember, we as a people hated Diana Ross and Whitney Houston too.We called them both sellouts and turned our back on them.It seems when sistas especially crossover and start taking over the world we be the first to try and jump in their way and stop them.Beyonce is facing that same type of backlash now and it is so awfully sad to see other Black women leading the charge.Can’t you all see that Beyonce is us? She represents us.She is a bad azz Black chick changing the game and hasn’t lost her Blackness in the process.Beyonce encompasses everything spectacular about Black women.The world is copying us right now and always have.Everybody wanna dance like Janet, Aaliyah and now Beyonce and Ciara.Everybody want that black girl booty and Black girl sound and style.Beyonce is controlling all that right now and 10 years from now you will see her clones.She is us and we are her.Please let’s kill of the best female artis we have had since the early 90’s.I won’t even get into whether she deserves the Oscar nod or nod cause I don’t care.I just know we gots to stand behind our girl because she is doing us strong and making me proud to be a Black woman right now.

  22. I don’t hate Beyonce and don’t think that everybody who says something less than positive about her is a hater. She isn’t the most talented actress that I’ve seen but can I do better? NO. Have I seen worse. YES.

    Too often we try to make everything personal. How many of us blogging know Beyonce Knowles personally.

    What we know is this: She is a very beautiful and smart woman and she is working the heck out of the business of entertainment/showbusiness.

    She admitted recently in an intereview that “Listen” was written by whomever, sent back and forth to various people for imput, including her, before it was even close to being recorded. She isn’t trying to take full credit for the song.

    Let’s admire her for what she is. An entertainer.

  23. It’s a losing battle to try and talk to these people cause they gonna feel they way they feel and you will never get them to see things any differently.You all are the ones who take it seriously.You’re the ones who usually throw the insults and low blows.Beyonce can’t win with some people becasue they just truly hate from from the depths of their soul.They dance with glee everytime something negative is said about her.I can’t imagine being filled with that type of hate for a complete stranger.Some of you must be pretty pathetic.

  24. JELISSA,

    IT’S FUNNY HOW YOU CAN CALL JLO AND BRITANY TALENTLESS BUT TURN AROUND AND CRITICIZE OTHERS FOR NOT BEING BEYONCE FANS. SO I GUESS THAT MAKES YOU A HATER AS WELL OR MAYBE YOU’RE JEALOUS SINCE YOU THINK THEY HAVE NO TALENT. PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION, JUST LIKE YOU HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT JLO AND BRITANY, SOMEBODY COULD TURN AROUND AND ARGUE YOU UP AND DOWN THAT THEY’RE THE GREATEST. I CAN’T BELIEVE PEOPLE GET SO UPSET OVER SOMEONE HAVING AN OPINION AND FOR NOT BEING A FAN..GROW UP EVERYBODY DOESN’T LIKE HER THATS A FACT OF LIFE NOT JEALOUSY. ALL STARS HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FANS OF THEIRS…

    ALL BEYONCE FANS ASSUME THAT JUST BECAUSE BEYONCE IS BEAUTIFUL AND LITE SKINED ALL WOMEN WHO AREN’T FANS MUST BE JEALOUS HATERS. IF IT WAS INDIA, BRANDY OR ERIKA BYDU THAT NOBODY LIKED HATING OR JEALOUSY WOULDN’T BE AN ISSUE AND NOBODY WOULD CARE.

    :booty:

  25. Wow! Sistas going to battle over rich people… again. When will we learn that these people are just entertainers? You either like the product that they are marketing to you or you don’t. Beyonce is just like a brand of detergent to me. I do not care for her brand of detergent, I prefer something else. That is what makes America great, sometimes – CHOICES. :brownsista:

  26. Ms Jay, you are a certified :hater: and you need to fix those CAPS.I stopped reading after the first sentence.You need to get your anger and jealousy issues under control.

  27. A_Non_Y_Mous, you all talk a good game but yet you all jump for joy everytime something negative happens to this chick.It’s a sign that you all are jealous and unhappy with yourselves.How can you insult someone rich and famous while most of you all broke talking trash about them on the internet? Beyonce ain’t stuttin’ you fools.Oscar or not she is still a Black woman doing amazing things despite her own race trying to hold her down.

  28. Beyawnce is overrated. She doesn’t need to be nominated for every award there is just because she’s famous and pretty. I thought it was a Golden globe that the song ” Listen” is being nominated for. The reason she got eliminated is because of their new 3 winner rule. Whoever contributed the most got the nomination. She obviously didn’t contribute much, except for her oversinging. Maybe next time she should actually comtribute to writing her own songs instead of buying credit for it for her album and the awards. That’s just my opinion and I am entitled to it. I nor anybody has to kiss Beyawnce’s ass just because she’s black and famous woman who happens to entertain people.:roll::grin: Now watch all of her stans call me a hater because i don’t share the same opinion as they do. if that happens, then can kiss this :booty:

  29. I knew it wasn’t going to be too long before Beyonce’s fans called the Oscars “HATERS”, LOL! Everyones a hater, I bet you if Jesus said something about Beyonce, he’d be a hater too. Ya’ll need to stop.The people at the Oscars goes by who wrote what, and they put it all in percentages. Whoever wrote the least, doesn’t get in on the awards PERIOD. And if they already had three songwriters on the song, then the only thing that would be left over was BITS. And those were more then likely Beyonce’s bits. Those people in Hollywood don’t care about her or her STANs.I’ll save getting mad for someone that should really be getting nominated and winning an Oscar. I don’t know like um…ANGELA BASSET! Thank You.

  30. JELISSA,

    YOUR THE DUMMY THAT’S ANGRY, GETTING MAD AT EVERY ONE FOR HAVING A FREAKING OPINIION. I’M I’M SURE THAT YOU’RE BROKE TO AND BEYONCE AIN’T STUTTIN YOU EITHER WHILE YOU’RE ON HERE DEFENDING HER SO HARD AND NOT GETTING PAID FOR IT, SHE AIN’T GIVING A DAMN ABOUT YOU!!! IT IS UNREALISTIC FOR YOU TO THINK THAT SOMEONE CAN’T DISLIKE BEYONCE, THATS SO SICK… SINCE YOUR NOSE IS IN BEYONCE’S CRACK LIKE A LOVE SICK PUPPY YOU MIGHT BE THE ONE WITH THE REAL ISSUES HERE. I MEAN DAMN YOU SNIFFING HER HARDER THAN JZ.

    :stop: :noway:

  31. Jelissa,

    You really need to chill out with that hater mess, truth be known Beyonce isn’t thinking about any of us. This is just a page for people to express their opinion. Stop with the hater crap. You can’t honestly believe that everyone loves beyonce, it’s not that serious sweetie she’s just an entertainer. And people are allowed not to like her without being jealous haters. I like some of her stuff but I’m not a die hard fan and I’m not a hater nor jealous. Do you have to be a hater to dislike someone?

    :thumbsdown:

  32. This blog always gets the most comments when it comes to Beyonce.I swear every damn time something not so glowing is posted about her everyone comes out to have their say.What is it about this woman that either makes people either really love her or really hate her? What strange hold does she have over you people? You all are willing to fight to the death over her.Damn, I think this is one of the nicest sites around and I like the small group of people who post here regularly.I hope things don’t start to get wild and people can remain civil to one another.I have to adnit that I hate when the Beyonce fans come out and start calling everyone haters.I’m bout fed up with that ish too.People have a right to feel what they want and yeah some are haters but most of her fans aren’t just fans they are fanatics and just can’t take any opinion of their Queen that isn’t glowing.If anything you all are the ones that need to be checked.:bag:

  33. JOSIE,

    I AGREE WITH YOU THIS IS A NICE SITE, IF PEOPLE WOULD ALLOW EVERYONE TO HAVE AN OPINION AND NOT ATTACK AND CALL EVERYONE HATERS THE MINUTE THEY DISAGREE. IT’S ONLY LIKE THAT WHEN IT COMES TO BEYONCE THAT’S WHY SHE GETS SO MANY REPLYS. THESE PEPOLE ARE HUGE FANATICS OVER HER!!!!!

    :iagree:

  34. :stop: Beyonce need to add more to a song than “I or We or You” I never thought for a moment she was a writer. A person gets credit on a song for adding I think, 5 words. It no different than acting. If you get a speaking role with at least three words, you qualify to be in the screen actors guild. No different for writing, except how many words. I agree with the academy she should not be included. So she needs to sit back and hope to collect a grammy, where the rules are more relaxed, and she should not weep over being excluded. Anyone who has any knowledge about this industry knows the only reason an artist wants credit or their name on record as a writer is so when they are no longer active in the game, they can still get royalty pay. And who gives a damn what her die hard fans say or think. It is what it is.

  35. how do you know bey only added an i or we to listen? i think it is wishful thinking on yalls part to try and say bey isn’t writing her songs.no i don’t think she was the primary writer of listen but that isn’t to say she didn’t add important elements to it and who is to say whose part was more important 🙄

  36. and can someone tell me why is the writer of this story is hating on beyonce too? i thought yall were about uplifting sisters.i believed that schit until now.it is so obvious whoever wrote this is happy bey’s name was booted off the list.i don’t see yall talking schit about janet so why say negative stuff about beyonce now? i know the writers here are janet fans too.i ain’t never seen nothing even half way bad written about her.

    and yeah the site is nice and full of hot pics but if you going to claim to support sisters then do it with more than a few pics.i prolly won’t even come back now that i see how yall really rolling up in here :hmph:

  37. [quote comment=”2438″]how do you know bey only added an i or we to listen? i think it is wishful thinking on yalls part to try and say bey isn’t writing her songs.no i don’t think she was the primary writer of listen but that isn’t to say she didn’t add important elements to it and who is to say whose part was more important :roll:[/quote]

    Of course she wasn’t the primary writer, duh! hence knocked out of the academy. It is not what the 101 posts are about? 🙄

  38. I have been trying to not comment again but you all make it so hard.I have been coming here from almost the beginning of the site a few months ago.I visit everyday but never posted.I enjoyed reading the stories and of course the pics.It was refreshing to see news and pics of sistas that were basically doing good things.I liked not coming here and seeing stories about wild Khia and her arrest record or tattos or stories about beyonce lace front wig.In other words, I liked the positivity of the site.

    You guys usually just posted the news and some pics without adding statements that brought on negativity.That changed when you posted this story.By belittling Beyonce’s contribution to the song you opened the flood gates to the Beyonce haters who also probably came by but never posted because they felt their comments would be out of place here.But now they see they can hate on Beyonce because the writers are now doing the same and they are going to be here evryday doing it.

    All the other sites at some time or another hate on Beyonce.Many refer to her as SWNSNBM and openely call her Beyawnce.If that isn’t hate I don’t know what is.

    Beyonce is only a handful of Black women out there who are successful.She is our “Black Gold” (you all said that) and should be treated with some kind of respect.

    I am not a STAN.I am just a proud Black woman who sees the destructive pattern we as African Americans display whenever one of our own gets too big and I want you all to see it too.Really analyze why many of you dislike Beyonce and you will understand what I am saying.

    I am finished and won’t comment again.Peace to you all.

  39. Alright who here is willing to bet money that Trish is a :hater: .I call it like I see’em and she has too much anger in her posts not to be a :hater: . She is just a little too eager to prove Beyonce is some talentless twit like say Fergie, Gwen Stefani and Nelly Furtado are.Build a bridge and get over it already.Beyonce is a talented songwriter and so what if she didn’t write all or most of Listen.How much did the other three really contribute to the song? How come we all are just willing to support Beyonce’s name being removed from the ballot with no explaination? I smell some racism or favortism somewhere and I hope Papa Knowles get in someone’s :booty: over this.

  40. Seriously, I don’t understand why she was casted as Deena. The original writers of the stage play SPECIFICALLY indicated that dark-skinned black women are to be casted for the roles. Beyonce was basically white on screen, and turned WHITER as the movie progressed. Boo on the Dreamcast filmwriters for putting too much links with Rainbow Records and Motown (there was not a faux Jackson 5 group in the stage play)… what the eff?

    Casting choices for the film also reflect the inculcated investment of people on Whiteness, and how whiteness is what is deemed more beautiful. Why wasn’t Deena’s role given to a darker woman?http://brownsista.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_brownsista.gif

  41. Jelissa,

    Oh my goodness! You’re so stupid, you’re all over this blog calling everyone a hater arguing with anyone who does not share your views about Beyonce…There is no hate anywhere on this page just people posting their opinion. You and damn are the only ones on here name calling and taking this so personal you’re creating all of the negativity by attacking everyone’s opinion. You sound so crazy getting upset over nothing.You truly are a complete fanatic. Don’t get your blood pressure up over Beyonce she don’t give a care about you.

    :loser:

  42. There is already a Grace on this blog and she is different than the Grace who posted the last few times in this article.

  43. The only people who claim Beyonce is overated, overexposed and without talent are women.I’ll give you 2 guesses as to why.Mariah said it best in Blender, the only people who complain about women are other jealous women.Most of those complaining probably need to put a :bag: over their faces just to leave their house.

  44. I also want to say that I visit the blog a lot 2 but never posted before today.I love the pics and how you just give the facts without all the drama.

    Beyonce and Jay look like a beautiful grown couple in the pix posted.I see them growing old together and having kids.They will probably be together for years like B’s parents have been.

    Black Love at it’s finest :brownsista:

  45. [quote comment=”2427″]Beyawnce is overrated. She doesn’t need to be nominated for every award there is just because she’s famous and pretty. I thought it was a Golden globe that the song ” Listen” is being nominated for. The reason she got eliminated is because of their new 3 winner rule. Whoever contributed the most got the nomination. She obviously didn’t contribute much, except for her oversinging. Maybe next time she should actually comtribute to writing her own songs instead of buying credit for it for her album and the awards. That’s just my opinion and I am entitled to it. I nor anybody has to kiss Beyawnce’s ass just because she’s black and famous woman who happens to entertain people.:roll::grin: Now watch all of her stans call me a hater because i don’t share the same opinion as they do. if that happens, then can kiss this :booty:[/quote]
    CERTIFIED :hater:

    I hate the term hater and think it is used way too often but some of you just have the ish stamped on your damn 4heads.Here you all are making accusations none of you can substantiate.Beyonce and her strong Black man of a father can only do so much.They can’t force a writing credit for Beyonce.In order to do that they would need total control of everyone around them.Do you think the so called real writers of these songs would just give up a piece of the pie if they really felt Beyonce added nothing to their work? C’mon folks get serious here.No one is going to share their lucrative royalties with Beyonce just cause her daddy had her add a word or two.

    And as for Mathew, why the hate on him? Here go a Black man married to the same Black woman for bout 30 years, handling his bizness.They were upper middle class Blacks before and are super millionaires now thanks to this mans vision and know how.Don’t knock this brother.Give him some credit for loving his family and being smart enough to recognize the gifts his wife and daughter posessed.

    If the average Black kid had a father like Mathew who knows what heights they could reach.Big up to him for being a STRONG BLACK MAN loving the Black women in his life. :brownsista:

  46. So according to the Beyonce Stans I, and everyone else who acknowledges that people who DESERVE awards should be the people GETTING awards is a Beyonce “hater”? That’s pure silliness. I can love black people and admit O.J. did it! I can also admit that although she is a talented singer and shrewd business woman, she should still EARN what she gets. If she gave an OScar-worthy performance and got nominated I’d give her all my support as a black woman doing great things- but she didn’t. You Stans know it, I know it, the SAG awards know it. Acknowledging the truth about a situation does not make you a “hater”, thanks!

  47. And just to note: I personally grew up off of Destiny’s Child and adored Beyonce. I started to question her when I read interviews in which she was qouted as saying such thigns as “LeToya was tone-def and didn’t contribute anything.” or when they asked her about why she was always being put in the middle she responded,”Maybe its because I’m light-skinned.” I seen the video on You Tube when she tells Kelly in an interview to “Shut Up”. I’ve heard her talk about the “process” or writing “Resentment” when the song was written for and recorded by Victora Beckham and then re-recorded by the amazing Jazmin Sullivan before Beyonce touched it and added literally FOUR lines. So no one can call me a “Beyonce hater” or say this is unsubstantiated gossip because I WAS a huge fan and still enjoy some of her music but I can’t put my support behind that- and it does not make me a HATER! You want to look at “haters”?, um, where are the projects from Matthew Knowles OTHER clients (Solange,Kelly, etc.)

  48. Damn historymajor, I didn’t know all that.If you got the links to those interviews on You Tube please post them.I saw where she called Latoya tone def and said neither she or Latavia could sing but that other stuff is new to me.i wanna see that.

  49. If you go to You Tube and type in (I can’t remember but I think) “Beyonce showing her true colors” or something like that, you can see it. It ain’t nice!

  50. Oh and those qoutes can be found in back issues of Sister to Sister just so y’all know I’m not some “HATER” making things up! LOL

  51. I typed in just what you said and found it.It wasn’t as bad as I expected but Beyonce definitely has a lil bitchy quality to her.The look she had on her face when Farrah was talking was priceless though- gave me a good morning laugh :lol2:

  52. Dana…did you see the EYE she gave Farrah and Michelle?! :lol2: Out cold! “Haters” can’t make that up!

  53. I must admit, I’ve seen that a few weeks back I felt bad for kelly. As for michelle, I don’t even really think they like her and she seems to be the nicest from what I see at least.

  54. I have enjoyed me some DC and Beyonce music over the years but I have always known what time it is.Mathew is a shrewd bizness man looking out for his daughter’s best interest and Beyonce is smart enough to fall in line and do and say what she has to to advance her career.I have always been smart enough to know she didn’t write all the songs she and her father claim she has.Mathew tried to pass her off as a song writer because that is where the money is.30 years from now when Beyonce can’t drop it like it’s hot, she will still be receiving royalties from her music.It’s bizness people.This set up however didn’t work for the Oscares and they said “hell to the naw”.She ain’t get no nomination up in here for something she didn’t make a signifigant contribution too.We shouldn’t be mad about it.Right is right.

    I’m trippin’ off this a little because I just saw Beyonce last week saying they wrote the song over a few months and went back and forth with it.The look on her face told me her contribution was limited but she wanted to make us think more becasue she knew what we all know, Listen is going to win.Old girl wanted that Oscar and probably hand space on her mantle set aside for it.I know she mad now.But again, fair is fair and right is right.Stop trying to pretend to be more than you are.

  55. Oh :roll:…when the presidency race happens in 2008, can all the Beyonce STANs come out and vote for Barack Obama so we can have our first black president please? I swear, if as many of you would of come out in 2004 and voted and faught for Sen.Kerry as you do for Beyonce, then our country wouldn’t be in the mess we are in now.

    I’m sooo over black women automatically dubbing other black women “HATERS”, “BROKE”, “UGLY”, etc. Cause they don’t worship that Brawd! You don’t know what somebody look like and how much somebody has in they pocket to make those assumptions. Now if your Ugly, Fat and Broke, then thats your problem to deal with. But I am a lovely educated sister with fly educated girlfriends, that could give a sh#t about whatever that girl is doing. If she want to win an Oscar, then DAMN-IT, more power to her.(Not sure if someone told her you have to have REAL acting skills to win) But hey we all have dreams. I say do YOU. But how do you expect, me someone who is educated, to support Beyonce? She can’t even form a full damn sentence correctly, that girls favorite word is “UM”, if anything when she speaks she’s entertaining. I like some of her songs, but that’s about it. I’ll be proud of someone like Alicia Keys, that correctly represents black women… “NATURALLY BEAUTIFUL”, “ARTICULATE”, with “UN-MEASURED” talent. Thank You.:brownsista:

  56. I love Beyonce, may be an even borderline stan, but it isn’t that big of a deal. If the song wins, no one can take away the fact that she sang it and sang the hell out of it. She’ll get the accolades. I know with album plaques (gold, platinum, etc.), those that have contributed in some way also receive the plaque, so there is a possibility that it is the same for award shows. Maybe they don’t get an actual statue, but maybe they do get something from the academy or whatever for their contribution. If that is the case, then she will get her Oscar.

    I do agree with what someone above said, that if she contributed 4 lines to the song, then she should be standing up there too. Lil Mo wrote the hook on one of Ja Rule’s most popular songs, about 4 lines, and she sued and was awarded more millions for her little contribution. Sure it was a tiny part that she wrote, but she was still a writer on the song. Look at the Producer role on most cds. Diddy, for example, claims a producer role on most tracks that come through Bad Boy. Do you think he is sitting behind the sound board making beats on all those songs? No, he turns some knobs here or there, makes suggestions for changes, and leaves the rest to the real producers. He didn’t do the heavy lifting, but he assisted and should be given some credit for his contribution, no matter how small. That is just the way the business works. So if Beyonce changed a line, put in some ad libs, changed the size of the font, no matter how small her contribution, she still contributed.

    I like that people support her and if someone says something that is false about her (good or bad) and makes a correction with facts, that is cool too, but everybody has a right to their opinion. Everybody doesn’t have to like Beyonce. :brownsista:

  57. Now that I know Beyonce won’t even be nominated I don’t even care.I was hoping to see the sista bring home a Oscar but now who cares? Hopefully either she or Jennifer will get a nod for their acting performance and I can have someone to root for.I gotta be there and represent for the sistas.

  58. ok i was just reading this website and wasnt gonna write anything bcause i said i dint want 2 start the yr off talking about beyonce. but enough is enough i agree with ms.jay u people act like a law has been created that says we have 2 like beyonce or we will go 2 jail. come on now i dont like her and i dont have 2 and thats not hating i dont like alot of people n the business she dont mean nothing 2 me. n fact none of them do they aint giving me or u a damn thang. so i could care less about beyonce. fact is her daddy will do anything 2 make sure his daughter succeed even if that means stepping on other peoples toes 2 get 2 the top. i just had 2 add my 2 cents bcause u all r so sad arguing over this girl like shes princess diana or somebody. EVERYBODY N THIS WORLD IS NOT A FAN OF BEYONCE STOP CRYING AND GET OVER IT DAMN!:iagree:

  59. Thanks for taking the time to talk against her.You have started your new year off the same way you probably ended 2006— talking ish about Beyonce :loser:

  60. TALK 2 TO ME,

    DON’T WASTE YOUR TIME TRYING TO REASON WITH THESE CRAZY ASS BEYONCE PSYCO FANATICS THEY’LL JUST CALL YOU A JEALOUS HATER. IN THEIR EYES YOU DON’T HAVE A RIGHT TO DISLIKE BEYONCE, ALTHOUGH ITS PERFECTLY O.K. TO DISLIKE ANYONE ELSE BUT YOU’RE A HATER IF IT’S BEYONCE.

    SICK AIN’T IT!

    :lol2:

  61. Hey, stop the madness, the real question here is why are you speaking negative about Ms. B’, what have she done to you, is this site a support site or a bash celebrity site? I think that all of you are intitled to your opinion, however, your just making assumptions about the whole thing you can’t predict the future,and definatley not Ms. B. Knowles, and besides, It seems as thought most of you are very young immature and really havn’t dealt with life yet, especially when you start blamming skin complextion, as if your hella dark or something, well get over it if your having a skin complextion problem, tell your parents to get you some help. know your black history! so to you ms. jay, and historysometing, and everyone else who is not obviously a b. knowles fan than maybe your on the wrong site. I just stopped by to see what’s new happening with my girl and it sounds like she is doing great cuz all you j…. people or haters are just sounding rediculous stupid, especially when it’s just gosip and the show havn’t even aired yet, how dum, unless your are true in fact HATERS! AND IF YOUR BLACK REALLY STOP IT YOU MAKE ALL OF US LOOK BAD, REGARDLESS OF YOUR SKIN TONE
    DUM ASS:stop::brownsista:

  62. and since it’s been determined that most of you on this site is very young, the show I am speaking about is the Oscar Awards. if you have pics to share share it or stuff that the people would luv to see about her please post and move on. if your sad and depressed about your skin color or whatever just give it to JESUS, and you will be fine. don’t hover over things you can’t change nor control, the ordeal of rather or not she contributed to writing her song, is irrelivant on your part especially if your not a fan, then don’t worry about it….it’s a no win situation…
    peace and I am out!:grin:

  63. Sharolon,

    You’re the DUMB ASS, if people like you would shut the hell up, respect others opinion and stop getting on the defensive every time someone says that they’re not a damn fan, there wouldn’t be any issues. And as a for as skin tone is concern its the Bey fans who keep making comments about ugly dark skined women being jealous of her bla, bla, bla. That’s what’s sound stupid. There is no hate any where on this site, just people having an opinion. It’s fanatics just like you who seem to get offended when someone say that they’re not a Bey fan, then you start all of this garbage about hate, jealousy and accusing everyone else of having issues when you’re the one causing all the fuss, that’s what immature. You’re like children worshiping your favorite star. And some of you HYPERCRITES fighting for Bey so hard are on other pages of this site saying negative things about Ashanti, Janet and others. The term HATER is so loosely misued that it’s just pathetic!!

    If anybody is immature it’s idiots like you who can’t understand that people have a right not to like someone as an artist or entertainer it’s not hate sweetie it called OPINION!! I feel that Luther Vandros is the greatest that ever lived, but I’m not going to argue with someone if they say they don’t like him or his music sucks because that’s they’re right to feel that way and it makes me look stupid just like you look right now getting upset over this bull ish!

    :booty::thumbsdown:

  64. Sharolrn,

    This is not a Beyonce fan page, is what you people don’t seem to understand, this is a place for people to speak their mind whether you like it or not. So maybe you’re on the wrong site. Your comment about everybody being immature and haven’t dealt with life yet, you’re the one that’s obviously immature because you don’t understand difference’s in opinion. If you were adult enough to understand that you and the rest of these STANS wouldn’t be defending so hard every time someone has an opinion about this damn girl. I can’t believe people get upset over this chick, she’s a freaking entertainer who doesn’t even know you exsits. You can’t be too grown up if you’re foolish enough to think everybody in the world loves beyonce. Your going off the deep end saying know your black history and give it to Jesus, what the hell!

    Like Ms. Jay said it’s stans like you that bring all of this jealous hater, and skin tone bull grap into play. I don’t see any hatred on here any where, just people saying how they feel.

    :iagree:

  65. all I am saying is that it really doesn’t matter how you feel about her, since your so negative about anyone, including b/ just keep your hate, discuss, jealousy, anger, bitter, whatever negative feeling you have about the woman to yourself, that’s all, I am not mad at you for saying how you feel, just try to respect other people’s feelings, because when people spoke kind and supportive words of her it seems as though some of you get mad, just say your opinion and move on as well, you don’t like her then that’s cool, you probably have alot of people out there that don’t like you as well, just think about that for a minute. Know one is asking you to like her just try to not abuse or become disrespectfull, that’s all, and this doesn’t have anything to do with who she is as an entertainer, but as a Black woman, and just a successfull woman period. so this is the point. just have some reliable fact when you give opinion about her being shaddy or negative and try to stop speaking of things that are not true but are used to affect or bring a person down. this is called slander. say what you want but just be carefull of how you say it. your speaking to the world about someone who is known all over the world and is very well like for whatever the reason, to each is own.
    I happen to like her and her style,
    you go girl!!!!!
    peace out, everybody is thinking of you………:brownsista:

  66. Do you really think that anything anyone says on this site will have any affect on Beyonce’s career? Please! This woman is beautiful, super rich and a world known superstar who could care less what any of us has to say about her. I’m sure she is smart enough to know that everybody is not a fan of hers, she’s not sweating it so why are you? Nothing being said on this page will hurt her career or record sales, she’ll still be famous tomorrow don’t worry. Celeberties have really thick skin if you didn’t know.

    As a fan you can’t understand a person not liking someone that you worship you take any comment that doesn’t sing their praises as being bad or negative rather than a matter of opinion. I don’t see anything hateful or bad on this page, just sounds like people agreeing or disagreeing. We’re all entitled to our opinion wheather you like the way it sounds or not. This page is for comments, not a Bey fan club.

    :thumbsup:

  67. That’s what’s up Beyonce is being exposed for the ok singer but nonwriting, overexposed, bitchy, two-faced, slimmy rat she is! She doesn’t deserve an OSCAR hell she didn’t deserve all the Grammy’s she’s won for that matter! She’s no Lauryn Hill and never will be!!!! She is just like her mom and her crazy ass daddy! She is with Jay-Z not for love but as he said himself for what he can do for her. They know if they stick together that’s more money for the both of them b/c they are a couple! But all ya’ll stans out there need to know Beyonce is and has always been a trip and I can’t say it’s all her fault her parents are trying to be young. They made her think that she was Diana Ross in a way. At all the interviews with DC she did all the talking and if someone asked Kelly, or any of the other girls a question she had a look on her face like shutup let me answer, I sit in the middle I do all the talking! Beyonce has demons, demons to be on top and to be the best and that is going to send her str8 down to the ground in due time. Even with her undeserved awards and record sells that oh yeah I forgot to mention Sony illegally helped with her sales with her first cd (which I have to say I love Dangerously in Love B more than this new shit). Sony was sued $10 mill for that but the news won’t bring that up. Beyonce has so many people that are disliking her now (not hating) and she deserves it! Jennifer Hudson will get hers she is the BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that’s true and raw talent for yo ass!

  68. I wish Beyonce will just retire already and move to Africa. This is a damn disgrace…it’s bad enough that she is even nominated for a Golden Globe Award. When they first spoke of the nominees Beyonce wasn’t even on the list. Then later on she is announced as one of the nominees…The Golden GLobes had no intention in nominating her..her contract and management fought their hardest to get the producers to nominate her….and they probably bribe them into doin it also. …Because it worked….But this is crazy…why her and her father and her lil camp feel she should be nominated? She can’t act…All she did was play herself in the movie..a glamorous woman who sings and dances..what is so superb about that? Nothing….and if she wasn’t this famous super star (which helped her get an easy way in to the acting bizz) she wouldn’t have even won the role playing Dena or any other movie roles……Her acting is sorry…and this is such a damn disgrace…….A PETITION should be put out………….IMMDEDIATELY:iagree:

  69. Sharolyn, I was almost interested in what you were saying and then you yourself Got arrogant. You are name calling and then telling everyone else to give it to Jesus. Do you want to be the voice of reason or do you want to jump on the boat with the critics?? Make up your mind.

  70. I think it’s only fair. beyonce even said on a TV One interview with Kathy Hughes that the song was sent to her and she changed things here and there. And as far as hatin on “my people” it has nothin to do with being black. Only because we both black doesnt make it right. There’s plenty of black entertainers who are talented and been working hard for years but don’t get half the attention beyonce gets. I dont see u takin up for them. So please don’t tell me about hatin on my people.

  71. debra girl :iagree: u spoke the tru leave it her fans are as crazy psycho and full of themself as beyonce
    u find them all around the world sayin they dont like this or this celebrity but when it comes to their queen (who is not even a queen)they bout to lose their life for herits sad to love someone who dont care about u because beyonce cares about herself as long as she got her money
    if not likin her is hatin i want an oscar me too cause i hate her to death

  72. i think beyonce should just stop whining about how desperate she wants oscar and other awards ..it will come when u earn it….look at jamie foxx…who knew …so patient is always de best answer. and am sure their decision had nothing to de with race after-all who is dis world ever knew dat off all humans ….three 6 mafia would win……besides she has gotten so many awards..wat is she doin wiv them … ???

  73. AND SHE ALWAYS WANTS TO BE THE FIRST …BLA BLA BLA WATSUP WIV DAT???? ON WAT SHOW ABOUT HER I HEARD HER SAY SHE WANTED TO BE DE SECOND AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN TO GET OSCAR…LIKE WTF IS DAT?????:loser:

  74. Tha is true Sony to help sell her records “illegally”.. ..Beyonce and her camp has plenty of illegal ways in getting and keeping Beyonce on top….Ya’ll remeber when Beyonce won all 6 grammys?..well sony and beyonce and her father illegaly had somethng to do with that…yes ya’ll are right..beyonce is not all that and i don’t even understand in why she is always nominated and winning awards…..there are soooo many female artists who are waaaaaaay more talented that she is….and they don’t even get all the same attention and nominations as much as Beyonce does…THAT RIGHT THERE SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING IS UP

  75. I think Beyounce is a very beautiful women with a okay voice and she can not act. She is a very rich woman and she will still make out alright in the end. But either you got it or you don’t, so don’t call it hating.

  76. No body is hating on Beyonce. But let’s face it, she is way over exposed. It is just ridiculous. I don’t know why everyone is making a big fuss over Beyonce getting or not getting an Oscar award. First of all she can’t act and for her to even be nominated for a best actress award for a Golden Globe was such a JOKE. Let’s be realistic the only reason Ms. B is getting so much attention is because of her looks and the media loves celebrities that are attractive. Why is so much attention focused on her when there is no attention paid to the REAL black actresses like Angela Bassett, Regina King and Saana Lathan. Oh yeah, that’s right, they are just a little too dark. Well I am so glad that Jennifer Hudson is getting all the attention and taken away Ms. B and Daddy Knowles’s big dreams of getting an Oscar award. Wake up call Beyonce Knowles, you can’t have everything just because you are the pretty one.

  77. Please Beyonce is very attractive with makeup on!!! Strip all that makeup off and her weave…She is averge. Everyone thought J.Lo was this naturally beautiful sexiest woman in the world…But then when the world saw her without makeup..everyone realise makeup can do great wonders.

  78. she is pretty and can sing, but she only gets hype because she is light skinned, if she was dark you wouldnt see her that much and people wouldnt hype her up, she isnt the only pretty entertainer, and no im not a hater im telling the truth

  79. Whats fair is fair and that doesn’t exclude Beyonce! I believe that she is a very creative and talented person but until she writes a song completly by herself, she will never be acknowledged as a writer. Adding two lines to a song doesn’t make you a song writer, if it did we would have thirty people to a song claiming that they contributed. Think about it people.

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