Erykah Badu Responds To Her Critics
As rumors started to swirl earlier this week that Erykah Badu could possibly be pregnant by producer Jay Electronica, the singer started to come under scrutiny from fans, bloggers and other assorted critics who thought she was sending a bad message to young girls and the public in general. For those of you not in the know, Erykah has two children already, a son named Seven by rapper Andre 3000 and a daughter named Puma by 80’s West Coast rapper The D.O.C. Erykah has never been married and herein lies the problem according to many. If Erykah is pregnant by Jay Electronica he will be the third man she has had a child by and never married. Three children, three different fathers- many think Erykah is just a walking stereotype of Black women.
Erykah however has heard her critics and has apparently chosen to respond to them publicly, via the okayplayer message boards. Below is Erykah’s very lengthy response to those who have a problem with her lifestyle choices.
peace,
HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT THE QUEENDOM
…AND MY CHILDREN AND MY INTELLIGENCE.
ive never been so disgusted in all of my life .
there is no other place i used to enjoy more .
i post no where else .
you guys have taken an all time low , tho.
I’LL STATE MY PEACE
i am a great mother and care giver to my 2 children and to this world .
my children are 2 of the kindest and happiest people i have met.
I home schooled them and taught them the ways of good to the best of my ability.
i am their doctor and their nurse .
and even sometimes their mother and their father.
i am an excellent mother and resent all of the negative comments and insults on my character.
I PUT MUCH TIME AND THOUGHT INTO HAVING AND RAISING MY CHILDREN.
IVE HAD THE HONORS OF HAVING 2 HOME BIRTHS AND 2 WONDERFUL PARTNERS BY MY SIDE.
every relationship i have been in was because i loved the person DEARLY and was dedicated to us “exclusively” FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
the fathers of my children are my brothers and friends .
we have a great deal of respect for one another and always will.
WE LOVE OUR CHILDREN TO NO END.
we took our own “vows” and CONTINUE TO UPHOLD THEM.
AND THAT IS WHAT THAT IS .
question?
WHAT IS MARRIAGE ?
WHO IS THE JUDGE?
WE ONLY UNDERSTAND THE EXAMPLES WE ARE GIVEN ( well sort of)
WOULD IT “LOOK BETTER ” TO MARRY AND DIVIORCE AND MARRY AGAIN ?
WOULD THAT BE MORALLY CORRECT ?
WHATS THE DIFFERENCE ? the government’s involvement i guess.
IDEALLY , IT WOULD BE EXCELLENT TO FIND THE MAN OR WOMAN WHO FULFILLS YOUR SPIRIT AND STAY FOR EVER AND EVER ( thru sickness and health till death do us part ) AND HAVE HEALTHY STRONG CHILDREN AS A RESULT OF A HEALTHY AND STRONG UNION.
(this CAN happen … we need much training , however.)
OR
IS IT REALLY “GOOD” TO STAY IN A RELATIONSHIP WHERE BOTH PARTIES ARE UNFULFILLED , LONGING FOR RELIEF , BRINGING one another down as a result of improper training , creating BAD ENERGY AND EXPERIENCES FOR THE CHILD TO REPEAT ?
(not to mention breeding deceit and anger and resentment )
SEEMS TO CREATE FEARFUL CHILDREN WHO TURN INTO FEARFUL ADULTS .
HOW MANY OF YOU GREW UP IN 2 PARENT HOMES THAT WERE MISERABLE AS FUCK ?
OR 2 PARENT HOMES THAT WERE NOT PERFECT BUT WORKED?
HOW MANY GREW UP IN ONE PARENT HOMES WHERE THE MOTHER WORKED HARD TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE CARED FOR BUT SHE WASNT QUITE HAPPY?
HOW ABOUT A HOME WHERE THE FATHER WAS THE MAIN CARE GIVER AND DID THE BEST HE COULD -LACKING NURTURE?
HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE A SIBLING THAT HAS A DIFFERENT FATHER OR MOTHER?
DOES HE OR SHE MEAN LESS TO YOU?
HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE MORE THAN 1 MOTHER OR FATHER OF YOUR OWN CHILDren ?
HOW MANY OF YOU HAD /OR / ARE PARENTS RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR CHILDREN ,THAT DONT QUITE FIT ANY OF THESE DESCRIPTIONS?
HOW MANY OF YOU STAY IN UNHEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS FOR FEAR OF GOING TO HELL?
HOW MANY HOS OUT THERE … THAT HAVE KIDS TO GET A PAYDAY?
HOW MANY PEOPLE GETTING THEY ASS KICKED AND ARE FORCED TO SUBMIT CAUSE YO MAMA GOT HER ASS KICKED?
THEN WHAT is CORRECT?
how about this:
I PRAY WITH MY CHILDREN
I FEED THEM GOOD FOOD
THEY RESPECT PEOPLES DIFFERENCES
THEY TRAVEL THE WORLD WITH ME
THE KNOW WHO THEY ARE
THEY ADORE THEIR FATHERS AND ARE LOVED BY 2 PARENTS OR MORE -
OR TWO OR MORE SETS OF LOVING GRANDPARENTS
THEY CRY
THEY GET HURT
THEY GET SICK
THEY HEAL
THEY ARE real
THEY ARE NOT AN IDEA or a TOPIC
AND NEITHER AM I .
I AM ALIVE .
I AM BEAUTIFUL WOMAN.
I AM A GOOD WOMAM.
I AM GROWING
I AM COMPLETE WITH OR WITHOUT A PARTNER AND WILL ALWAYS BE
AND I HAVE DREAMS OF A FAMILY STRUCTURE
ALL OF MY DREAMS DO NOT COME TRUE
AND DESPITE ALL OF THE PAIN IN MY LIFE …
IN MY MOTHERS LIFE …
IN MY GRANDMOTHERS LIFE
WE HAVE ALWAYS ENDURED
AND THERE IS SO MUCH JOY TO BE EXPERIENCED.
I NEVER HAD A FATHER AND I DONT KNOW WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE -
BUT MY CHILDREN DO , AND THEY LOVE THEIR ‘PARENTS’ .
WE ARE THEIR CHAMPIONS .
live how you want . follow which ever pattern YOU like .
MY CHILDREN WILL BE LEADERS
and they will not ever be slaves to this society’s failing idea of morality.
THEY OWN THEIR MINDS AND THEIR DREAMS.
BIRTH CONTROL lol … could have 10 babies instead of 2 .
I LOVE CHILDREN AND I WILL HAVE AS MANY AS GOD WILL GIVE ME .
I AM VERY HEALTHY AND RESPONSIBLE AND SO ARE ALL OF MY PARTNERS
I CHOSE THEM WISELY AND SOBERLY .
ALL GOOD BROTHERS .
your opinions lack experience and are not only careless but also very uninformed and immature.
nothing is sacred here . and i see why.
if i loose you as a fan because i want to continue to have children then
FUCK OFF… WHO NEEDS YOU ….CERTAINLY NOT ME … KICK ROCKS … CALL TYRONE … PACK LIGHT …. BITE ME
i have defended myself here ON THIS SITE and hurled a few insults .. but only in response to your insults of
my music , my clothes , my lyrics , my hair , my being a woman , my spirit, my choices of partners….
these have all been on trial here . and i continued to support the energy of this place .
this is to all the okay players / REAL HUMAN BEINGS hiding behind screen names in order to insult one another and who ever else you will.
geeeez…
i had to say something
i am so sad for parents who try , today guys
enough is enuf.
dont judge to quickly , OKAY PLAYER?
i know you are having fun , but what if it were you and your children?
my son is 10 .
my daughter, 4 .
peace
ANALOGUE GIRL
and if this post is not clear
kiss my placenta.
Talulazoeapple said,
I guess it’s easy to judge. I agree that too many women are ‘baby mammas’ but i think we make the mistake in thinking stars are just like us. They are not.
What makes single mother hood so detrimental in the ‘hood is the economic aspect, the stress it places on the family unit, and the pressure of only having one parent to supervise and provide.
Most of these stars, like Halle, Erykah, ect. who choose single motherhood don’t have the exact same hurdles. They do however share the moral responsiblity to provide the best nurturing environment for their children. Most believe, including myself, that two parents or more (including grands, aunts, and uncles) is best.
TZA
stacey said,
Truth hurts huh Erykah , I hear all your little explanation and you know you are wrong .Set an example not for the public butfor your kids .Aids and other STD’s are running rampant in our community as well as a high crime and failure rate among fatherless households .She knows she is wrong that is why he wrote a long explanation
Majesa said,
I swear I enjoyed reading that, and I agree with much of what she said. For some reason, people think marriage makes a happy home. The “OMG, kids out of wedlock” idea needs to be put aside. The main concern should be that kids grow up in a good home, with a parent (or parents) who love them and will raise them to be a good person. Marriage is no longer, if it ever truly was, proof that two people love each other and will be capable of a happily ever after story. That can be seen in the divorce rate and how fast people are getting married now. It certainly doesn’t prove that they’ll be good parents, and it shouldn’t be used method to judge people and their character.
Growing in a bad home with two parents, or home where people just tiptoe around each other to make it work, is no way to grow up. I have a lot of respect to Erykah for speaking out, defending herself, and making some very wise statements to the people that judge her and her children. It seems like she’s being better mom than some of the awful mothers I’ve seen that have a ring on.
Bee said,
This is not a good look for a woman of ANY colour in Western society. It seems women are all judged by the same measuring stick when it comes to this particular issue, the usual labels are bandied about e.g. “loose” “immoral”. Not so much for men. Over here in the UK we have a Swedish celebrity named Ulrika Johnson who has had four children by four different fathers and she caused a bit of controversy because of this. It was widely debated in the UK media with some arguing for, and others against her choices. I can’t find any of the newspaper articles right now but I found the following link on google. I think it comes down to issues like traditional gender roles and society’s expectations and obviously if you are a woman of colour in the spotlight then some people will expect you to behave like a “role model” and if you don’t they will feel “you are representing them badly”. I say let the woman live her life however she chooses, assuming she is an adult with the capacity to make informed decisions. Other people might not like her lifestyle choices but she does have the freedom to choose and we should really respect her choices as long as her children are not at risk of harm.
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/qu.....427AAkeTlM
Lovher said,
Let’s be honest alot of people have sex, call themselves christian and completely forget about the part in the bible that says what until your married. No one cast stones, that’s between her and God, even though its still wrong. I think most mothers who came up on it like she did feel defensive because they are good mothers. No one is saying that your not. But at child two/three…I no longer blame the man. I blame you…Your powerful and intellegent but you don’t know how to use birth control? I say that if your plan was to have these kids by a friend/lover knowing that the relationship was not sound….truth is marriage makes a statement and is an agreement. Woman only say “what is marriage” because they ain’t getting prposed to and they want the dude to hang aroundand they go numb on the issue. But with that said HOW SELFISH OF YOU…I deserve a better relationship with my father, I deserve to know the love of a man on real level. Not I go over my dads house and he loves me, or he picks me up and he loves me….think of how that translates into a childs future. Woman have been doing it for years….raising kids without a father and they have done good jobs…but all of those children have stated that they wish their father was in the household.
It’s 2008 if you end up pregnant its your fault..you are a GROWN A Woman and book smarts and common sense need to meet at some point. Baby number two. baby number three and still not in a commited relationship.
One thing I found in myself and notice in other women is…we are the problem. No standards and no boundary lines for what we allow and tollorate going into a relationship. We do not demand a man that is going to commit and be respectful of the faith. We are just glad to have the company and something close to a title so we forgive and forget. My SISTA’S ITS TIME TO GO HIGHER! Higher in choices, higher in judgement. higher in selection. higher in relation (not sex but the company we keep men/women). Its a constant struggle but you have to realize…and i think Kat Williams said it best..if you are 20 something years old still going around talking about “men ain’t ish…then you need to stop dating ain’t ish fools”!!!!! MESSAGE!!!!! MEASSAGE!!!!! Learn how to pick them/learn when to hold them, and when to fold them!!!!!
Stef said,
She has a point marriage doesn’t solidify a relationship, and you can’t band a woman from having kids just because she’s not married..Marriage is not the solution to every relationship..Look at Jennifer Lopez married 3 times how about Brandy & Solonge who both got married just to protect their image and what about Halle Berry who’s been married twice and has chose to have a child unmarried and not marry again..Which is right or wrong, having a child out of wedlock or setting yourself up for a failed marriage and a life of misery just because there’s a child involved? I understand the whole religous perspective but we live in a society where divorce rates are at 50%..Would it look any better if Erykah had 2 failed marriages, 2 kids and working on her 3rd marriage and 3rd child, what’s the difference..At least she can afford to take care of her children and she’s not a 16 year old high school drop out mother of three..And as far as her setting a bad example goes, this is why we should teach our children and young daughters at home.
I’m not saying that I totally agree with what Erykah is doing but we can’t expect others to live their lives by our moral code of judgement..Everyone’s outlook on marriage and family is different depending on how you were raised and what you’ve been through in life.
Sharon F said,
Erika is a *****, and a horrible representation of what the black woman stands for and truly is…..what an embarrasment!!
Smooth Thug said,
To: Ms. Erykah Badu. From: Smooth Thug.
Ms. Badu,
Upon the completion of the reading of your statements and comments, I was very amazed, rather astounded, and most amused. I, therefore, find it highly necessary to inform you that I can not, and will not, go along with you in your assessment of the present state of affairs in your life.
You stated that when it came to having your first two children you had “2 wonderful partners by my side.” 1) Those were not “partners”, sweetheart. Those were sperm donors. 2) I come to that conclusion by the simple fact that without any clarification from you to the contrary, I will have no other choice but to assume that they are no longer around.
You further stated that when it came to your feelings about the person you had a baby with, you said, ” i loved the person dearly.” Ah, but did they love you? Again, without clarification, I assume they didn’t.
As for the relationship you had with these individuals, you stated that you were “dedicated” “exclusively” to the relationship. Again, were they? Appearently they’re gone since I see no evidence of them still being around. Halle Berry’s situation is totally different. Her man is still there with Halle, fully dedicated to her and their child.
You also said that your commitment to these relationships would go on ” For a number of years.” So in other words you would have a baby with one guy, he’d then get to steppin’. Then you would have a baby with someone else, then he’d get to steppin’ too. Come on now, Erykah. What is the difference between that and getting married then divorcing only to remarry then getting divorced again? “We only understand the examples we are given”, you say? Exactly! Look at the example you are giving your kids.
You say that ” you pray with [your] children”? Excellent! That would be even better if you prayed that they someday find themselves a man or a woman who will build a relationship with them and then stay committed and devoted to that relati0nship.
Erykah, I’m not judging you by my standards or anybody else’s standards. I’m only asking you to act like you got a little sense, please. OK?
With cordial regards,
Smooth Thug
flo said,
Damn Smooth Thug, those were my thoughts exactly.
Majesa said,
Maybe I’m missing something.
me said,
i applaud erkyah for what she said. i don’t plan on getting married b/c i don’t believe in the institution. i do plan on having children and raising a family. i think ideally everyone wants their children to have the same father but ppl who are married and divorced sometimes have multiple fathers of their children. does this really make it more moral? i think erkyah’s point of view is empowering. kudos to those who get married and it works for them but not that’s an individual’s personal choice. erkyah brings to light what’s truly important. my favorite line is when she says, “I AM COMPLETE WITH OR WITHOUT A PARTNER AND WILL ALWAYS BE.” oh, and “KISS MY PLACENTA” at the end haha.
Please Excuse Me said,
Smooth Thug and Lovher you guys said it best…I love Erykah Badu and wish more for her than she wishes for herself.
Capital Peach said,
Stef and Majesa,
I agree with what you ladies said and I really don’t have anyting further to add.
Good points.
G Child said,
I just think, no one is and will never be perfect!
Liyah said,
I agree with very little that she said. If your relationship is divine and God has put two people together…. marriage CAN last and WILL work. I am not trying to beat down anyone who has kids out of wedlock but it is time to start creating “real homes” and stop sleeping with people without even thinking “this could be my childs father/mother. So many people jump in the bed with someone b/c they look good, or have a nice ride, or a lot of money and then when they get pregnant things unravel b/c they never got to know each other. I’m not saying such is that case with Erykah but I do think she is making some excuses. Its like she is trying to make it correct or be intellectual about it. She can say what she wants but it does look bad
Jay said,
Diddy didn’t catch too much flack for having 3 baby mothers. He caught flack for cheating but no one attacked his intellect because he has several kids by 3 different women. There’s always a double standard. Erykah is the one who has to raise those babies not us. And while we can sit here and judge her let’s not forget we are human too and have done things that people have judged us for. Live and let live.
Liyah said,
I guess I was a bit judgemental, but I am just fed up because I have relatives who do the very same thing and I haven’t seen any good come from it yet. and FYI for the comments above, I recognize diddy’s situation but I’m only addressing this b/c its a topic. Any who, God heals all wounds, Jesus IS the answer but we have to trust him
Gaston said,
Of course, no husband ever come home drunk and beat up wife and children…
Of course, nobody gets married because of wrong reasons: parents pressure, money, pregnancy, you name it…
Of course, nobody gets divorced…
Of course, nobody would divorce but choose to pretend “for the children” or worse “for what people would say”
And in each of those cases, wouldn’t the kids suffer?
Don’t you think Eryka has the means to bring up her children the way she wants?
About role models: it is high time to teach our children that artists, sportsmen or other celebrities are not role models. Teach them to be critical to what they see or hear.
Noel said,
I agree with Erykah it is her business as long as her children are fullfilled and they have their mother and fathers in their lives who cares??? Let her live her life and raise her children as long as their all fine then thats all that matters. The people who are commmenting all her life choices probably have 10 kids with 10 different men get a life!!. its too many other things to worry about.
peace
Sho ya right said,
Just because Erykah has money does not mean that her children are much better off than the children in the hood who come from a single parent household. I don’t think it’s any surprise now that money does not buy happiness (see all the Hollywood folks who are strung out on this drug and that drug, commit suicide, etc), and money surely isn’t a father replacement.
Further, Erykah has clearly not made the best of choices. I don’t think there is a study out there that shows that children reared in single parent households fare better in life and are more emotionally stable than those who grow up in two parent households (excluding the extremes, like the abusive two parent household versus the incredibly nurturing one parent HH where other parent visits very frequently…after all are those are only two options?). That alone, you’d think, should be a strong enough incentive for women to want their children born in wedlock (celebrities included). If we as black women become more exclusive in terms of who we have our children with it would really make a huge difference in our communities. I’m certainly not arguing that marriage is the panacea for a bad relationship; but, if the relationship is great (as Erykah suggested hers was with her “partners”), marriage only makes it better.
In short, ladies, let’s think hard and long before we make our families… in fact let’s plan them complete with emotional and financial stability and two people who are dedicated to growing together and not afraid to having the same last name.
Sho ya right said,
Btw, Noel, I don’t have any children and am a happily married woman.
Torya said,
This is difficult, I can agree on both sides. Having multiple children outside of a committed relationship really needs to be looked at. I don’t believe in getting married or staying in a marriage because of having children, but there is a reason that they are her ex’s. She really has to evaluate that. I wish her all the best and still love her as an artist.
UnalteredBeauty said,
Um..I love Ms. Badu and all but if this is her idea of good grammar then it’s high time that she stops home scoling her kids. =) j/p
UnalteredBeauty said,
schooling* (of all words to misspell)
mo'star said,
That’s that woman’s business. Who am I to take a self-righteous attitude towards her and her children. I have said it before and I will say it again. Just because you are married to your children’s father, you can still be a single mother. There are men who are right in the household who won’t help their children get dressed for school,much less home school them. I feel more sorry for those women. At least she is not a depressed mother, who feels unloved by a husband. I would’nt care if I were never proposed to, marrige is not what is used to be. I will get married when I am old and need someone to take me to the doctor and to the grocery store. lol For now, I am happy going through life with me and my daughter. I am not on birthcontrol because I don’t belive in that. I am blessed that my boyfriend understands that I don’t want anymore children and he uses condoms.
JRockin said,
I heart her so much, but let’s be honest. If you youtube her name you’ll find speeches of her talking about the importance of the strength of the black family to a group of bros and sis. She obviously wants to influence the world, she made herself a role-model and the voice of her people (she said she was). Now you can’t expect no criticism when you yourself want to teach people. It would be better if she had been in Halle’s situation, Halle’s not married (you don’t have to if you don’t/no longer believe in it) but she’s not a single mother and her child will have a family structure, a father in the home. Ms Badu is obviously repeating what she’s known, which is what happens 80% of the time, and her children are more likely to repeat what they’ve lived. The challenge our people need to take is to change this ridiculous amount of single parent families in the community (70%). Everyone makes mistakes, even if she doesn’t admit it to us (not obligated to), I hope she admits to herself she needs to make better choices.
Our community cannot be strong without a strong family structure, as a matter of fact, it’s one of our biggest weaknesses. Puffy having so many children from different women is just as bad if not worse (he has more than 2 kids he barely sees), Mosdef may be wise on the mic but he’s like Puff in his personal life. We need to be honest with ourselves as a people. We’re not the only ones, but the rate is bigger than any other group. It can happen once (Brandy & Robert), but twice is already too much(Erykah & Dre and DOC), three times and more is ridiculous (Shar Jackson/KFed, Kim Porter/Puff). Sistas can’t “do it all” , we lose a part of our potential and well-being with that “do it all” mentality. And men need to man up as well, because they complain they can’t take care of kids but why don’t you wrap it up or something, to make sure you don’t get chicks preg everytime? It affects YOUR reality as well, fellas.
Let’s make better choices, being human means you’ll make mistakes, but if you’re not learning from them there’s another way of calling it, and it is “being stupid”.
Kevin said,
I totally agree Erykah!!! Tell all your critics to stop picking from your Apple Tree and worry about their own lives. You ain’t asked none of them to baby sit or to buy milk for them. Keep doing what you do.
Kanyade said,
Ahh, the internetz strike again.
I’m sure people were talking trash about Erykah after she had her second child; most likely they were saying the same type things, but didn’t have an OUTLET (i.e. the internet) to where she’d be more aware of what they were saying. I’m not justifying the actions of those who have talked down about the latest news surrounding this sista at all. I’m only saying 4 years and moving yourself from analog to digital changes things and I kinda wish Erykah hadn’t even responded.
With that said, she makes a point. She DID give thought to having her kids otherwise she would’ve been one of those teen’s having a baby at 15 or having her eighth child by the time she was 26. I’ve read lots of hate towards her and have until now refrained from saying anything; but to bottom line it, she’s a grown *** woman and we can only go ’so far’ with passing judgment on her life, can’t we? Everybody should chill and let her be and stop off-putting your own beliefs/views about marriage and family onto these celebrity superstars.
Sho ya right said,
Just because someone is grown doesn’t mean they shouldn’t take responsibility and strive to make better choices. In fact because she is a grown a$$ woman she should know better and not be doing what the 15 year old kids do.
Come on my people. Stop making excuses and learn to live a better life. It’s no secret, rearing positive and well-balanced children takes two people who are typically in the household. Stop comparing her situation to the absent father who happens to be in the household. That too needs to be addressed, but is a whole other topic. Those are not our two options. Be more careful of who you have your children with…point blank. And if he won’t marry you or doesn’t want his children to be born in wedlock, chances are he’ll be just as nonchalant when things get rough (as they inevitably will in this thing called life). Whether a man will commit to marriage speaks volumes of his commitment to you and your future offspring.
Stop settling for less.
Miss P said,
Kudos to her for even writing that ish,but on the real she’s a grown women just like the rest of us and held accountable for her own.Marriage wont make a difference as someone said earlier,look at Brandy and SOlange and they didnt last.It was just to protect their image,but then she would ve have 2 failed marriages/reltaionships and still been single taking care of her kids being mother and father.To each its own.Like she says her partners are in her kids lives and I guess thats all that matters.She should use birth control.It would help.I hope this her last,but i dont care,I still love her music and Imnot takigncare the kids..LOL
Enigma said,
All the comparisons to Halle needs to stop. Lets do the comparisons when Halle’s kid is 4 or 10 because i’m pretty sure a lot of single parents can tell you that it was all good for a few months or years after the kid was born but then **** happened and the baby daddy is gone.
Don’t get me wrong I don’t believe in multiply kids by different fathers. It’s not a good look but neither do I currently believe in marriage but as many has stated we are responsible in choosing who we choose in becoming parents.
Smooth Thug said,
” Sho Ya Right”, thank you so very much for your words. They are very well said. Yes, all because Erykah is a grown a$$ woman doesn’t mean that it’s OK for her to go around acting like a 15 year old. I agree with that. I also agree with this… all because her “partners” are grown men doesn’t mean that it’s OK for them to go around acting like 15 year olds too. All they did was take “it” out of their pants, put it up in there, wiggle “it” around, and when they were done, they got to steppin’. That’s what high schoolers do.
“Miss P”, if Brandy and Solange got married just to protect their image, then they got married for the wrong reasons. No wonder their marriages turned into disaster areas. However, for the purposes of this particular subject under discussion here, we are talking about a marriage that is entered into for all the RIGHT reasons… 2 adults (not 15 year olds) who want to create a stable relationship for themselves and a postive environment for their kids, etc., etc. By the way, please do me a kind favor. Please go back and slowly and carefully read Ms. Badu’s comments again. No where, no where does she say that her “Partners” are still in her children’s lives. She only states that her and her “Partners” are still friends. That is not the same thing as parenting. That entire situation is one big, ugly, giant mess.
bria said,
You know this really amazes me. We celebrate Beyonce and Jay-Z and they traveled around and had premaritial sex. But we lifted her up as oh she is a great Christian she is strong in her faith as she slides down a pole and gyrates on a strange man that she picks out of the audience to give a lap dance too. But mothers continue too take their little girls to that concert and then wonder why they are having sex at 13.
We just celebrated Tocarro & Naiomi Campbell showing all of their breast and body in magazine. We idolize these rappers who for atleast the last decade or so has done nothing to help out the image of black women. If anything they have destroyed it. But this woman here who’s average fan is probably 30 or older is going to destroy young girl.
When are we as black people are just going to admit that we dropped the ball with our children. It is our fault. We allow these young women too walk around looking like they are going to solicit for sex. Are young men walk around looking like they just got out the joint. But this woman is the reason a teenage mother is going to get pregnant.
These young girls are getting pregnant because for one they are having sex and they are not educated about their bodies. They are not taught to respect themselves. My mother told me when I was 15 years old that protection should be the responsiblility of both parties but since it is your body and if you get pregnant then you will probably most likely be the one that wounds up pregnant.
It is time to bring shame back into our lives and back into our communities. Eryka and the rest of these startlets have know shame about themselves because if they did they wouldn’t act the way they act. But parents don’t take a sigh of relief because it is time for you all to stop being triflin and raise your kids and teach them responsibility for self.
SnijanaFleur said,
Bria LOVES Beyonce LOL
T. said,
I am appalled by the viciousness of some of these comments. I am also saddened that Ms. Badu had to try to defend her family and her choices to a bunch of strangers.
Ones views of morality and rightness belong to the individual. Ones view of what constitutes a marriage belongs to the individual as well. If we look at biblical examples Ms. Badu WAS married to the fathers of her children. If they chose to walk away or whether they made the decision together, she would have been powerless to force the fathers of her children to stay. We don’t know what promises they made to each other in these relationships, but we do know that they were lasting, committed relationships. How many people get married just to find out that their husband wasn’t committed at all? Should we clown her because she chose to trust in someone that she loved? Is it so bad that she believed in the love that she shared with her exes?
Maybe the venom should be directed, not at Ms. Badu, who is taking care of her responsibilities, but at the fathers who walked away (by not marrying the mother of their child) from their families. Why must black women bear the burden for everything wrong in the black community? Look at the men. That’s what the bible says to do. Men are supposed to be leading us, taking care of us, being the example. Women and children will fall in line with them or we will have to push on, doing the best that we can without them.
Also, we are talking about 2 serious relationships over a decent time period. Many women, in all walks of life, have more relationships than that in a fraction of the time. Why, though, should that even be a factor, when it isn’t a factor for men? It’s great when men sleep around, but let their be evidence that a woman is sexually active and it’s cause for scandal? We really are too stupid. If the men are active, then the women are too unless the men are gay. So let’s not act surprised that women are having unwed sex.
You don’t like the way she runs her relationships, run yours differently. Teach your own children to run their relationships the way you think they should. Yes, she is a role model, and I think she is a positive one and their are things that I would be proud for my children to learn from her. Their are things about Ms. Badu and every other person that I prefer my children didn’t model and it is up to me to teach them how to discern the difference.
Take the best a person has to offer and overlook the other things because that is what God does for us and what He requires us to do for others.
Ashley said,
My question is who is any of us to judge another? If she so chooses to have her children by men she loves and continues to raise them with love…again…who are we to judge? As Erykah said- too many relationships are based out of fear of how it will be perceived by others. A woman being battered finds herself ‘trapped’ in a marriage because she fears others will see her as a failure because she didn’t stick it out…that son/daughter then grows up to feel that is what a relationship is all about. I rather see a strong woman succeed bystanding on her own two feet, so that her son can see what a strong woman looks like and her daughter can maybe fashion her life with the example of her strong mother. My mom too, was just a single, no nonesense, determine woman. She raised my brother and I, while working and going school parttime while making sure we stayed off the streets, out of trouble with our heads in the books. Today, I am a undergrad at Columbia majoring in International Business and my brother is at NC State majoring in Chemical Engineering. My mom, well let’s just say Dr. Livingston is doing pretty well working for a hospital back home in San Diego. She is my best friend, my mentor, my rock. If a two- parent household has two loving parents that is great. But don’t doubt the love, the passion and the determination of a single mother.
bria said,
@SnijanaFleur:
First of all what a cool name. I hope I am pronouncing it right. It’s that I like nor dis-like Beyonce I am just saying I think we send mix signals out sometimes too society and to these young ladies out here.
I am not a fan of Beyonce, but, I am proud of her as a sister for her accomplishments. I just think that she has apart in destroying the minds of youth with always singing about material things and also always thinking she has too show every inch of her body for a man to be interested in her. With this over produced sexuality. And it is not just her.
So all I am saying s if we are going to down one part of it then we should speak on all of these mess that is out here. And not justs with celebrities with our selves as well. I know I fall short of the glory, but, I try too live right. And I just don’t think it is necessary too look like ***** too sell records.
Get Togetha said,
The one thing I’ve learned about life is that you can’t defend your choices. They’re your choices and that’s it. Case Closed. Erykah needs to realize that she is a celebrity and that her private life will be attacked cause that just how people get down. People; particularly small minded people will always have something to talk about. If if ain’t her hair, its her relationships, if it ain’t her music, its how she dresses.
The bottom line is that you can’t make people happy; and no human being has the power to judge. I think Erykah knows this already. She probably was just having a moment. Sometimes you just can’t believe how judgmental and finger-wagging people can be.
Nne said,
Lovher, Smooth Thug & Liyah- you all made awesome valid points that I, myself agree with.
I luv Erykah {the artist, don’t pay attn to her personal life} and though I may not agree w/ the way she goes about her relationships {however that is}. That’s between her and the Creator of all things, in the end.
I guess it’s all a matter of who/what you believe in. Only at the end of time will we know our eternal fate for how we go about now *shrug*…
Pearlsrevealed said,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I have been trying to resist posting but I just want to say that Ms. Nne hit the nail on the head with her comments about my views on this situation.
I love Ms Erykah as an artist and I wish I would never hear about their personal lives because it spoils the fun for me. To her defense I can’t even imagine and I don’t want to find out what it is like to live, love, and create with the whole world watching. As Gaston commented, entertainers should not be our role models.
As a Christian and a human being, I will extend to Ms Badu the same love and grace that God has given me and pray that it all works together in the end for her and her kids and all the troubled folks in our community.
Pearlsrevealed said,
Also want to add that though some public people are innovators and trend setters, many only mirror back to the community what many are already experiencing. A moral revolution begins with personal responsiblity times 20 million. In other words, each one of us should stop looking for a national leader to rescue our community and start creating a better reality in our own household. Don’t hide or deny our mistakes. Forgive ourselves and keep moving in the direction by making better choices. Once we experience some victory in conquering our own demons, we can lovingly (non critical) help others to do the same.
Each one, teach one.
Lovher said,
THE WOMAN GETS PREGNANT AND THE WOMAN KNOWS. I highly doubt any of them are accidents from condom mis haps. Bottome line is in todays world with so many virus’s alone all religions aside weather you believe or not…ITS TRIFFLIN!!! Black women are the number one effected by this and she feels that she needs to say that having a kid is not the big deal people make it. And others sadfully are agreeing because they feel there should be no system….ok watch someone die of aids or any other STD because none of them sound pleasant to me. You need to seek out the highest of commitment you can. She clearly has not…and ladies by the highest commitment I didn’t mean marriage… meant self love and not self hate and denial. If she is so conscience why would she say that and plant the seed in a girls head who has not lived long enough to know the consequences that hey having kids like buying cars is cool. A new one every three-five years! I’m commenting twice because that kind of ignorance is sick….people are going after rappers and they need to be going after her for puting that mess in the eyes of a beholder. We are queens and we should protect each other. And educate each other on what not to do. AAARRRGGGHHHHH. It p
’s me off because some 18 year old saw this that looks up to her and now what???? And the problem with black folk is we always want to say that such and such got away with it. But my momma used to tell me “well you the one that got caught so shut up.” IF YOU WRONG YOU WRONG…I don’t care about diddy, tom cruise, usher, or whoever else. WRONG IS WRONG. Protect yourself and save yourself or DIE!!!!!!
Mika said,
Let’s face it, most people’s morals have gone down the drain.
nique said,
how dare any of y’all cast stones. people are so quick to judge someone thats in the public eye. yet i can guarantee that those judging would fail miserably if the roles where reversed. why are y’all looking for someone else to be the ‘almighty example’? why are you leaving it up to someone else to show you the way. what E does is between her and her god. who are any of us to judge. and folks have the nerve to wonder why we cant unite. its because we’re too busy throwing stones and judging. folks makes me sick sometimes.
mo'star said,
For the record, my position stays the same.
love yourself
dark sista said,
WEll said
mo'star said,
“I work at pleasing me ’cause I can’t please you
and that’s why I do what I do;
My soul flies free like a willow tree, dooeeeeeee”
Erykah Badu-Apple Tree
that pieces chick said,
Wow…I can’t believe how judgemental people are on this site. Ever heard of “glass house”
that pisces chick said,
Oops
Smooth Criminal said,
Well I`ll just speak on the home schooling part of Erykah`s rebuttle.
I do agree with her home schooling her childern for it is something that we, as a people, should have been doing a long time ago. I humbly believe that we all have been miseducated. Can the former slave expect the former slave master to “truly” educate him? To answer that in the affirmative would be naive to say the least; for that is an oxymoron. For our former slave masters to “truly” educate us would be like cutting their own noses to spite their face.
Just think about it. Before our forefathers were brought here to The Western Hemisphere we possessed “infinite” knowledge as we had mastered the universe in its` totality. The mathematics, science, philosophy, architect, etc, we had mastered it all before we came into contact with The Europeans. Even today it is still a mystery how our people built the great pyramids, even unto us. All this knowledge we lost a long, long time ago. Today we go and send our children to school to learn and to gain knowledge that will, more times than not, serve our former slave masters.
It`s like the master going to the student and saying, “educate me”. That`s just how far we have fallen and the shackles of slavery still embodies us, for we are enslaved mentally. We have been taught by a people who don`t even recognize us as an American. Not only that but I submit to you that we aren`t Americans judging by their own constitution. For how can I “truly” be an American if I`m only classified as 3/5 of a human being. Therefore, I`m not protected by the said laws of the constitution.
I think our beloved brotha Malcolm X said it best with the following quotes;
“I`m not an American, I`m one of the 22 mil. victims of Americanism”.
“I don`t have democracy, I`ve only be shown a hypocritical disguise called democracy”.
So if we`re not really citizens, why then would they (our former slave masters) “truly” educate us? Even today most of us would still pledge allegiance to the flag when we have yet to know the freedom that this country says all men have. How can I quote the pledge of allegiance when injustice still reigns from their laws? Real citizens do not need civil rights laws passed for they are already citizens.
So I totally agree with Erykah home schooling her children because The American school system is not in our best interest.
P.S. I`ll no longer post lyrics from MJ`s or The Jacksons songs if it annoys certain people. It`s not a big deal so I`ll keep it moving. I`ll just give my personal tribute by referring to MJ`s name.
MJ and The 80`s forever!!!
Family Man said,
While I definitely appreciate Eykah’s point and respect the fact that it is her choice, I certainly can’t relate, and I definitely don’t agree with her point about staying in a bad relationship for the sake of the children. My parents have been happily married for almost 50 years. Neither of them have children out of wedlock. They’ve made TONS of sacrifices along the way in order to set better examples for their children who look up to them. The fruits of their labor are 4 adult sons, none of whom have children out of wedlock. The choices that our parents made earlier in life still guide our decisions today as we are now all happily married parents, ourselves. See people…..it CAN be done! Ultimately, life has a way of complicating itself. We, as parents, should add clarity to our children’s lives, not more confusion.
Keidra said,
And now that she has Spoken No more needs to be said……
Um I believe it is her Body,Life and right to do HER……
sHE OWES NO 1 NOTHING
Smooth Thug said,
“Smooth Criminal”, Michael Jackson lyrics don’t annoy me. Please keep them coming because I enjoy them very much.
Keepin It Reel said,
Well. She said it all. And I think what she chooses to do with her life is her business and no one elses. Times have changes so much over the last 30 years. It would be idea to have 2 parents in each home, but that is not realistic. It is not the norm in our communities. As long as she is taking care of her children correctly then everyone needs to get out of her business.
Women are critized if they dont take care of their children, run the streets, bring to many men around their children, and not spendign quality time with their children. She is has not done any of these things. For all of the Naysayers…..GO FIND THE PEDOPHILES AND RAPIST AND WOMEN BEATERS THAT CONTINUE TO GO TO JAIL AND GET OUT ONLY TO COMMIT THE CRIMES AGAIN….
Just something to think about!
Keepin It Reel said,
@ Smooth Criminal
Please keep the lyrics comming from MJ. I enjoyed his music in the past.
dark sista said,
“P.S. I`ll no longer post lyrics from MJ`s or The Jacksons songs if it annoys certain people. It`s not a big deal so I`ll keep it moving. I`ll just give my personal tribute by referring to MJ`s name.”
I love michael jackson too i adore him but its get anoying when i have to scroll
a lil longer down to read other people’s comments because of that that’s all
i’m sure i’m not the only one but i don’t like to shut up on my feelings
but thank you for considering me and my feelings
Lovher said,
MY BLACK SISTA’S WE ARE DYING!!!! MIND, BODY AND SPIRIT. IT’S SIDE. THIS IS NOT ABOUT CASTING STONES AS I SAW ABOVE. RELIGION ASIDE YOU CAN NOT LIVE LIKE THAT…SHE IS HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX. AND WE ARE DYING. WE ARE MISISNG THE POINT. ITS NOT ABOUT MEN DO IT, WHITE FOLK DO IT, SHE’S A CELEB, OR A SCAPE GOAT. WE ARE DYING!
Djehuty said,
Morality, just as conscience, is given to the people (seals, robots, goyim) by the society, so what can you expect from the majority of the m(asses) of the people? They will function under and according to their programming. A robot is as a robot does. And that’s why they judge Eryka they way they do (and did).
bria said,
@Smooth Criminal:
That was deep. I never thought of education in that way.But that definately explains alot. It explains why there is never enough books in our community schools. Why everything is always in such a disaray.
The former slave master descendants have been taught how great we are and how we catch on too things extremely fast, so you are absolutely right why would they want too teach us. We have to take control over our own education.
Djehuty said,
Okay, typed a little fast above and didn’t want to drop too long because I wasn’t sure the comment would take (post), but it did, so here goes in FULL:
Morality, just as conscience, is given to the people (seals, robots, goyim) by the society, so what can you expect from the majority of the m(asses) of the people? They will function under and according to their programming. A robot is as a robot does. And that’s why they judge Eryka the way they do (and did).
The American people (masses) are major dumb asses. Not all, but most! I know because I deal with them on many issues in life in this Matrix (law, relationships, taxes, employment, religion, belief systems, sexuality, etc.). I have over 210+ articles written on these various subjects (www.dherbs.com/articles).
Marriage is purposely faltering in this society (the Matrix) because it is based on an old and outdated paradigm (wether you like this fact or not). Many of the ignorant Christians are the most self-righteous hypocrites on the planet. Now where in their Bible do they find prophets of God getting married? That man (prophet Abraham) screwed many women without marrying them (the way modern ignoramuses define and view marriage and suggest Ms. Badu should adhere to).
The Bible clearly lists many men (mostly prophets) “going in unto her (a woman)” and thus making the woman his wife. Abraham never married Hagar and Hagar was given to Abraham for sexual purposes (to bear a child for Abraham) but still we find mention of Hagar being Abraham’s wife (”And Sarai Abram’s wife took Hagar her maid … and gave her to her husband to be his wife, Genesis 16:3).
But where was the marriage between Abraham and Sarai and Hagar? Where were the wedding vows? Where’s the mention of the marriage license? If you gon’ be by the Bible, then be by it, but don’t intermingle the Bible with the State (System/government) especially when there’s supposed to be a separation between Church and State (at least on the surface because hell, the State owns the Church via 501(c)3 incorporation/Title 26 United States Code); but clearly the State is God because while you claim God in your ignorance and hypocrisy, the State is your God and your actions prove it.
God never told you to go get a marriage license, the State did and for the State’s reason (to own your marriage and regulate it via the Civil Code and Family Code). God never told you to go take a blood test. You see, you can’t find any of the things the American simpletons do in regards to marriage in the Bible. All you will find is a man “going in unto” a woman and this act ALONE made the woman the man’s wife and we even find prophets of God doing this act with impunity, hell, ole Solomon even had 700 wives and do you think there were 700 wedding ceremonies or 700 marriage licenses obtained? Of course not!
Now since God never said go get a marriage license, go get a blood test, go get married in a big *** church and spend $10,000 – $25,000 on the wedding ceremony, etc., who told you to go do all these things? ANSWER: Your God, the State (government)!
God told the Christians and the Muslims that usury (interest) was prohibited, but look at the hypocrite Christian and Muslim in the United States – these hypocrites WILLFULLY go get credit (i.e. credit cards, mortgages, car notes, etc.) which attaches the forbidden usury (monthly interest rate); so again, who is God? Clearly the State! C’mon now, the Bible clearly says you can’t serve God and mammon (Matthew 6:24) and look at what folks are doing while yet claiming God and following God’s strict command and then will justify it by saying Jesus said to render unto Ceasar the things that are Ceasar and the things of God to God, but how do we interpret this as going along with the God-forsaken world? Clearly through misinterpretation but again we find in the Good Book for the Christian to not lean unto their ‘own’ understanding (interpretation), Proverbs 3:5 as well as to not judge another (which includes Eryka Badu), Matthew 7:1-2
Personally, I judge and have judged via choice and free will and it’s okay because I’m not a Christian and thus not held in check by Biblical code like Christians and Muslims.
The term “license” is legal in nature and means “permission to do a forbidden or prohibited thing or act that without permission is illegal, trespass, or a tort.” Reference the following for your legal edification:
“A license is merely a permit or privilege to do what otherwise would be unlawful.” Payne v. Massey, 196 S.W. 2d 493; 145 Tex. 237, 241
“The purpose of a license is to make lawful what would be unlawful without it.” State v. Minneaoplic-St.Paul Metro Airports Com’n, 25 N.W. 2d 718, 725
“A license is a Right granted by some competent authority to do an act which, without such license, would be illegal.” Beard v. City of Atlanta, 86 S.E. 2d 672, 676; 91 Ga. App. 584
Do you understand what license means now? A license gives you PERMISSION to do an act that without the license is ILLGAL or UNLAWFUL. Now can someone please explain to me what makes doing an act (man and woman coming together to be a union) since time immemorial without a license ILLEGAL or UNLAWFUL?
So you mean to tell me that if you ascend in love, oops, worldly people “fall” in love, so, if two people “fall” in love and decide to be together for conjugal and other purposes, and do not seek PERMISSION (from the State), their act is unlawful?
The Bible doesn’t mention this being unlawful, so how did it become unlawful? Who made it unlawful? Who is this COMPETENT authority that gives permission for marriage these days? Maybe Badu knows something her pompous critics don’t know.
You see, before you condemn Ms. Badu for being the clearly evident free-thinker and iconoclast that she is, ask yourself why do you do what you do in the first place pertaining to certain things like getting a marriage license (permit), obtaining a driver’s license, paying income taxes (when income is clearly LEGALLY different from salary and wages), getting a business license, registering your vehicle with the State, obtaining a birth certificate, getting a deed for your home, etc.
Go learn what the word “register” and “deed” means and learn how you voluntarily allow yourself to get ****** up the *** for being the big dummy that you are because you don’t understand the laws of the land that clearly govern you (and the rest of us) due to successful programming (inculcation) via attending the public fool system, oops, I meant to say ‘public school system.’.
Go learn how the word “wedding” originally meant “to sell one’s daughter,” and then go study the etymological root of the word “dowry” (though we no longer give them these days).
Go learn before you judge and condemn while completely ignorant of the origins and modern day ramifications and implications of your actions, rituals, and ceremonies. Go learn where the phrase “jumping the broom” originated and what it meant (and still means). Go learn why your engagement ring is for the fourth index finger and specifically for the left hand. Go learn why their is a “marriage tax” (taxing a sacred union ordained by God).
Ignorance to the ears of the wise, sophisticated , and refined is ANNOYING!
You who self-righteously condemn Eryka Badu are all a bunch of hypocrites who like Jesus said “… with your mouths you profess me, but your hearts are far removed from me.”
Our world has changed and is changing, so get with the change before the change gets with you. Most of you will be assed out when gas reaches $7 per gallon knowing full well you have no pay raises forthcoming on your corporate plantation job that can counter this. Oh, and don’t forget to look up the term ‘employee’ too. And don’t look these words up in a regular dictionary. Regular English does not rule, LEGAL language does! Law rules here in the corporate U.S.
Teach ERYKA! TEACH HARD! What these fools up!
well well well said,
Whatever..all this crap
BLACK WOMEN HAVE THE HIGHEST RATE OF AIDS
BLACK WOMEN HAVE THE HIGHEST RATE OF AIDS
BLACK WOMEN HAVE THE HIGHEST RATE OF AIDE!
NOT CUTE TO HAVE 25 BABY DADDY’S SAY WHAT YOU WANT.SHE CAN AFFORD TO DO IT BUT THERE ARE WOMEN WHO CAN’T.. BE RESPONSIBLE….ALL THIS LONG DRAWN OUT CRAP OVER WHY IT IS O.KKKKK…WHAT!I’M A SOCIAL WORKER I DARE YOU TO ARGUE WITH ME ABOUT IT…DARE YOU
Sho Ya Right said,
Thank you well well said. Djehuty is part of the problem. Because s/he hides under falty reasoning, reasoning that is way way too long and drawn out might I add. She cites the tax code as the basis for her argument that the state owns the church. Wow. The church is afforded tax exemption under the code, but it hardly means they are owned by the state because of it. Djehuty also makes the argument that God never told people to get licenses and to get married. Last time I checked, God never “told” me anything. God never told me to not kill even. But good reason tells me that God would want me to not kill. To suggest that God doesn’t want people to get married….well that’s a new one.
Djehuty, you might be right about America being comprised of a bunch of fools…. you are the poster child.
esther said,
erykah…pls do not have another kid out of wedlock
Djehuty said,
YES, Sho Ya WRONG! Djehuty is part of the probelm when you are smart and wise enough to know that problem means “opportunity” and that’s what I offer: opportunities (to grow and improve) via mental stimulation.
Also, there’s no solution without understanding. God told you not to kill? That’s a lie. Remove the supermarkets and you (and everyone else) would outright kill the meat (animals) you eat. You would also steal, rob, and commit every other penal code violation if government created the circumstances for it. Remember, sheep are always controlled. They are reactionary creatures. Sheeple are no different.
Let’s keep it real, Beloved! You don’t kill HUMANS under a civil jurisdiction because society told you not to. But if society put you in its military (army) your *** would be killing left and right, like they’re doing right now in the so-called Middle East. Don’t talk no **** to me about government and how it’s not your God. You are the product of society.
The tax code (IRS/Title 26) does confer ownership. Here, though your brain power may be deficient when it comes to lengthy material (which is why Americans are enslaved right now), the U.S. Supreme Court bears me witness (please read in full for your legal edification; I promise you won’t get brain cancer):
“We are of the opinion that there is a clear distinction in this particular between an individual and a corporation, and the latter has no right to refuse to refuse to submit its books and papers for examination on the suite of the State. The individual may stand upon his Constitutional Rights as a Citizen. He is entitled to carry on his private business in his own way. His power to contract is unlimited. He owes no duty to the State or to his neighbors to divulge his business, or to open his doors to investigation, so far as it may tend to incriminate him. He owes no such duty to the State, since he receives nothing therefrom, beyond the protection of his life, liberty, and property. His Rights are such as the law of the land long antecedent to the organization of the State, and can only be taken from him by Due Process of Law, and in accordance with the Constitution. Among his Rights are the refusal to incriminate himself, and the immunity of himself and his property from arrest or seizure except under warrant of law. He owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights.
Upon the other hand, the corporation is a creature of the State. It is presumed to be incorporated for the benefit of the public. It receives certain special privileges and franchises, and holds them subject to the laws of the State and the limitations of its charter. Its rights to act as a corporation are only preserved to it so long as it obeys the laws of its creation. There is a reserved right in the legislature to investigate its contracts and find out whether it has exceeded its power. It would be a strange anomaly to hold that the State, having chartered a corporation to make use of certain franchises, could not in exercise of its sovereignty inquire how these franchises had been employed, and whether they had been abused, and demand the production of corporate books and papers for that purpose. Hale v. Hinkel, 201 U.S. 43, 74-75
The corporation is a CREATURE (that which is created) of the State and knowest though not the State controls what it creates? In law, if you can control, you OWN it! That’s why all U.S. citizens are owned by the State and the proof is in all of your government documents you have and possess and all the codes you are regulated by. Your every action and behavior is regulated (controlled) because you are controlled.
If the State doesn’t own a thing, then how can it regulate what it doesn’t own? If you own your car (which you don’t via vehicle registration), how in the hell can the State impound it for not obeying the State’s laws? To take property denotes power predicated upon ownership! Many churches have been shut down for not obeying the State and so explain to me how the nexus between the State and the Church was initially formed. It was formed through what you are clearly ignorant of: INCORPORATION!
You are ruled by government via contracts (legal documentation) that is espoused for surface reasons, i.e. public safety, public morals, compelling state interest, etc.
And God never told you anything? It would appear that way from your response which displayed your brain or the absence of that in your brain, but I can see you are not spiritual so I won’t waste my time.
And for the record, my words did not espouse that God didn’t want people to get married, my words are clear in that TODAY you are getting married in society under government regulations as well as traditions of the State that do not jive what was recorded in Biblical scripture and I dare you to find and post substantiation. You won’t because you can’t!
Just fess up to the truth that you are an imp of the State (a municipal corporation) and get ****** up the *** with ‘no vaseline’ because you want to be law-abiding and obedient under the banner of sheer ignorance of things written in books with too many words and no pictures which lulls ignoramuses to sleep due to them having a 30 second attention span.
“Every problem is an oportunity waiting to happen.” – Tucker
“In every problem lies the seed of its own solution.” – Dr. Norman Vincent Peale
So you goddamn right I’m part of the problem. Problems incite greatness to be revealed or manifested also reveal solutions and opportunities. And that’s why the masses are not great because they can’t handle problems much less want to deal with them.
Instead of dictating circumstances, most people let circumstances dictate to them. But such are the ways of the world (society, the people).
Sho Ya Right said,
Djehuty, you sound like one of those “homeless prophets.” LMAO It really is hilarious skimming your rant. But really though, how did you get access to the internet!?!? Get off the library’s computer, your time’s up.
Djehuty said,
Sho Ya Right: would a “homeless” prophet own a company such as: Dherbs.Com?
See, you acting a fool (evidently, your nature) and I’m putting up facts and realisms. My company/business is e-commerce based so if you had a minutiae of sense you’d know that e-businesses require Inter-net use and access.
I “live my making” and “make a living” on the Inter-net. In fact, I’m getting paid right now to chisel off the calcification from your pineal gland. I get paid for being on the Inter-net to manhandle “intelligence haters,” when I’m not simply sharing and from a certain vibration.
So with that said, only a fool would log off when they have sound reason to stay logged on, but a fool is as a fool does.
Many are worried about Badu and her private affairs and these same mofuggas can barely pay their rent and utility bills but they are social reformers, moral guides and coaches. Yeah, RIGHT! Nothing but a bunch of unknowners, insignificants, soap box ministers and preachers, and poor righteous teachers with nothing better to do than to pass judgment on those in the limelight whereas they themselves are dying for just a speck of the light (5 minutes of fame) themselves.
These sapsuckas are at work sneaking on the Inter-net to kill (pass) the time while Badu is doing what she wants to do and making mad snaparoos ($$$) in the process.
I like people like you because you serve as a famous Everlast product known as the punching bag.
My responses are long because they show what’s in my head and yours are short because …. well, um, I think you and others get it, but then again in your special case, maybe you don’t, but that’s just too bad.
Get off Badu’s tits and go lead by example being the Great American moralist, if you have the heart despite lacking the brains!
From the FOOL himself!!!!
Pearlsrevealed said,
@ Sho Ya Right
Well said! LMAO
@Djehuty
Other cultures may not get a “license from the state” to get married, but the institution of marriage has been acknowledge as such with rituals (dowries, etc) and norms of behavior throughout recorded history. God also recognized marriage and 2 of the 10 commandments dealt with the sexual conduct of those unions.
Yes. In the Old Testament some men had several wives and concubines to demonstrate their wealth and power and to insure that women would not go unmarried due to lack of men (war casualties). If you want to know what God intended go back to the Garden. It was only Adam & Eve. One man to one woman. The fall of man perverted what God intended. He did allow this activity for hundreds of years but through Jesus (under the “New” Testament) He began reinstating His plan for those who choose to take Him at His word. In the New Testament in the book of Titus chapter 1, it says a leader should be “the husband of ONE wife”. Promiscuity was not apart of the plan!
Work prevents me from taking the time to unravel your points. But here are a couple of scriptures to meditate upon…
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Proverbs 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom. And in all your getting, get understanding.
We all (including myself) must remember that when we don’t use our God given common sense and don’t learn from our mistakes we make messes of our lives and the lives of others.
SnijanaFleur said,
Djehuty
Your post is a very interesting read. I’m glad you participated.
My fav. line is
“Problems incite greatness to be revealed or manifested also reveal solutions and opportunities.”
I’ll never look at problems the same way again LOL.
mrs t said,
NO MATTER HOW YOU SCREAM IT, WRITE IT, OR JUSTIFY HAVING 3 BABIES BY 3 DIFFERENT BABY DADDIES IT IS FUNKY, SO WHAT SHE CAN AFFORD TO TAKE CARE OF THEM SHE CAN AFFORD BIRTH CONTROL ALSO, THERE IS NO EXCUSE TO TREAT YOUR BODY LIKE AN INCUBATOR FOR EVERY MANS SEED. ERICA WHOLE ACT IS SUPPOSE TO BE ABOUT UPLIFTING BLACK WOMEN, BURNING INCENSE AND WEARING TURBANS AND MEDITATING AND HERE SHE IS PUTTING HER LIFE AT RISK FOR AIDS. WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS RELATIONSHIP DOESN’T WORK OUT AND THE NEXT MAN IS THE “ONE” WILL SHE HAVE HIS KID TO? WHAT WILL SHE TELL HER CHILDREN WHEN 3 MEN ARE KNOCKING ON THE DOOR AND EACH CHILD IS GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION WITH THEIR DADDY. FUNKY, FUNKY, FUNKY!!!!!!!! IT AIN’T ALRIGHT FOR OPRAH A BILLIONAIRE AND IT AIN’T OK FOR LAQUISHA IN THE GHETTO TO HAVE MULITPLE BABY DADDIES. SHE SHOULD GO ON MAURY POVICH SHOW WITH THIS STANKY BEHAVOIR, **** WHO YOU WANT TO ****(YEAH I SAID IT) WHO CARES !!!!JUST USE PROTECTION!!!!!!!
Smooth Criminal said,
@Djehuty:
Your post was very “thought provoking”. You are definitely on point about The Government. A people`s governmental system does shape that people`s mind. We are indeed property of The U.S. Government. And it starts with our birth certificate followed by our social security number, etc. etc. All documents that The Government, be it local, state or federal, has pertaining to each of us denotes ownership. Not only that but if The President ever declares Marshall Law it will become even more evident.
By Executive Orders 10999-11006, maybe more, The Federal Government has the authority to seize all property, vehicles and bank accounts of all individuals if deemed necessary. We all should keep our eyes open because it was recently signed into law for The Government to be able to spy on us. So indeed we do not have “true” sovereignty.
mo'star said,
Married people contract HIV/AIDS also-just a little food for thought. Regeneration can’t take place if you use condoms or birth control. Children are a blessing. The womb is a sacred place that brings life. I refuse to poison it with birth control pills. Just my choice. I am not saying people should have unprotected sex all over the place, but whether people want to admit it or not, everyone dosen’t always use protection and it dosen’t mean you are going to get AIDS. If you know you have it, Its your moral responsibility to know that your sex life is over. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it’s true.
rene said,
What if this is what she wants?… To have a lot of children, coincidentally, by a lot of men. I agree with her, marriage is only a judicial and papal arrangement, only to be defiled time and time again by human nature.
If she was to do what she’s being “accussed” of , then she certainly has the rights and THE MEANS. I don’t know many baby mamas who are acclaimed musicians and are multi-millionaires. So, single mother typicality in no way applies here.