Chris Brown was just arraigned in court and the proceedings were covered live on the E! Network. The singer’s court date was pushed back until April 6th and Chris waived his right to appear in person at the hearing- thus sparing himself the humiliation of facing the press and throngs of angry fans who greeted him at his hearing today. The victim of Chris’ heinous acts, his girlfriend Rihanna, was not at the arraignment today as many speculated she would be. However, her attorney was present and made no objections to the case being postponed until April. As the victim Rihanna is not required by law to show up for Chris’ arraignment.
As many of you already know, official police details of the event came to light today and they were more graphic and vicious in nature than many of us expected.
As previously reported, the argument started over a 3 page text message Chris received on his phone from another woman. Rihanna apparently read the message and a fight ensued. According to police Chris beat Rihanna about the head, bit her ear and finger, put her in a headlock and punched her in the mouth so hard blood spewed all over her dress and the car.
You can read full details here and pics of the inside of the car can be seen below.
Update:
As I reported earlier, Chris Brown was in court today with his attorney Mark Geragos for his arraignment on felony charges stemming from his attack on his girlfriend, Rihanna. Part of the proceedings were aired live and other parts I just saw online.
Two things really stand out to me, One: Rihanna’s attorney, who was in courtroom, stood shoulder to shoulder with Chris’s attorney, loaned him a pen and then inquired to Chris how he was doing. Two: Rihanna’s attorney told the judge his client, referred to as Ms. Fenty, did not want a restraining order against Chris. For those of you who watched this- didn’t Rihanna’s attorney and Chris’ attorney seem to be working in conjunction? It was like they were partners.
Clearly, Rihanna has no plans to go against Chris when he eventually faces the music for what he has done. I won’t judge her because she is so young and youth breeds foolishness- but I will say that I feel deeply sorry for her. Her own words to police that night reveal Chris has beaten her before and that the beatings were getting more severe. What does this man have to do to her to make her see the light?
March is Domestic Violence Awareness Month- let’s hope and pray our sista wakes up before it is too late.
the police officer’s notes coupled with the pictures of the car are very disturbing.
I said it she is not back with him,His camp is trying to hard to make it seems as if, They claimed to have pictures of him and rihanna’ s crew but those allegations are false nobody in rihanna’ s camp have been seen with brown, just him some friends or family and a female that i believe is a decoy looking like her…Chris is a sad individual
Very disturbing details are emerging, its a wonder why she is taking him back if I’m gonna be honest. Seeing the picture was disturbing enough but now all this info emerging from the LAPD just makes things look a lot worse for Chris Brown. He’ll be lucky if he has a career after this and it’ll be interesting to see how her fans view her if does actually stick by him (I’m trying to make an effort not to believe every single thing I read about that at the moment) but it definitely isn’t a good example to show to her fans.
Please ivory face it they are back together we have in barbados . i saw the the whole hearing rihanna didnt want a protctive oder against brown and her mother is whipping that she isnt calling of anwering phone calls.rihanna is a bajan she will do what she wanna do
Bajan you can’ t speak for the whole bajan population that’ s one, Second unless you are associated with rihanna and can show me proof that they are back together , i don’ t believe you and this, I don’ t have to face anything it’ s not MY life i’ m just “opinionating” and leaving :)
Horrible. I hope the stories of them getting back together are false. Hope she stays far away from him.
:iagree: I really hope that she does not go back together with him and if she is as it is being reported, I hope she backs down and use her mind and not her heart to be a symbol to all women that you don’t have to hate yourself that much that you will allow a man to beat you senseless and you stay with him for whatever reason. Truly a sad case.
Well, the media is reporting that Rihanna’s lawyer was standing up with Chris and his lawyers and was talking to Chris. Rihanna’s lawyer stated she did not want a restraining order against Chris. I wonder if they are working together.
@ Ivory, yes, that was Rihanna’s crew with Chris in Miami. And yes, the boarded a private jet together. I don’t know what’s going on, but I hope they BOTH get some HELP!
Let this be a lesson learned for both! :sad:
ITs being reported that her parents are trying to contact her but she changed her email address and telephone #. Rihanna’s Dad said he called her # and someone answered saying “this is not her phone anymore”, then he said he believes someone has a stronghold on her and telling her not to call.
This is very sad! The report and pictures are disturbing, even if it is one sided the pictures and his charges spoke for themselves…..the D.A doesnt need her.
I do agree that the Lawyers were to chummy with each other, and it bothers me to see that it “seemed” like he didnt council her and tell her to get a no contact order and stay away from him. Rihanna is making a bad decision because he will not stop hitting her, she has to leave before her life does.
Have you guys ever noticed how Rihanna’s parents have always been out of the picture? Rihanna came into the business still a teenager and needing parental support but you never saw either parent- like you did with Beyonce, Usher, Christina Aguilera and other artists who started off young. I totally believe them when they say they have no contact with their daughter and don’t know what is going on.
I agree Stephanie!! It is just mighty strange now. Her parents have NEVER been in the picture like that. Aaliyah, Brandy, Beyonce, basically everybody else has always had their Mom or parents with them. I’ve always believe those reports about her catching nasty attitudes with certain people. She was able to branch out solo at a very young age. Then in another country. America…..the land of the FREE!! Alot of reports have stated that they have went and eloped. I HONESTLY believe that. A spouse can’t testify against the other. But heck, even if it is false she’s still NOT going to testify. I just want this crap to go away. I’m tired of it. I don’t even have anymore comments about this fiasco anymore. DONE…
I don’ t believe they are back together so i don’ t care what happens to him at this point, even if he gets off easy in court,he already been tried in My court and found guilty!
Stephanie : It might sound weird i respect that about rihanna, That she came here by herself and did it all By herself, I know i can’ t make a step without my mama and i commend her for being a young independent black woman doing her thing, without her parents pushing her, However i’ m sure she calls them, and talk to them … but sometimes you don’ t wanna listen to what your parents have to say because they might wanna impose their opinions and judgment on you so either way i understand the situation
I dont believe a wordh she said in that police report. So you mean to tell me that you can get your a$$ beat the hell out of wit ONE hand?? and that she was hopless and helpless?? Yeah right. She lie like a rug….thats y she’s back with him.
You should read the whole report yourself. Rihanna said she tried to gouge his eyes out and did indeed fight back.
I can’t listen to either one of their music. This is all disturbing to me. It shows how truly dysfunctional this situation is.
I’ve seen pictures of Rihanna and Chris leaving Miami together on a private jet and arriving in California together. I think it’s disgusting how Chris Brown fans are saying “Chris I love you!” “Rihanna deserved what she got!” “Rihanna can’t sing, she’s ugly, she’s this. . she’s that!”
Celebrities are not role models by no means. I saw 14 year olds holding “Chris, I love you” signs outside the courthouse like this is the time for Chris to be praised. Wrong! It’s not. Its crazy how parents are allowing their children to look up to these celebrities, obsesse over them. There needs to more conversations between parents and children about this. This sends the wrong message to young kids.
Don’t let the television or the media raise your children. If you aren’t teaching them, they are learning something somewhere else and in this world, that’s a crazy thing to think about.
Kids need to know just because you sing for a living doesn’t make you excempt from consequences. Everyone ripes what they sow. Period. It doesn’t matter how much money you have. Wrong is wrong and I’m calling a spade a spade. Even if justice doesn’t prevail in the courthouse, God is who E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E has an accounting to.
When you know better, do better. No person regardless of race, gender, sex, or class should be hit, slapped, or beaten.
It’s sad that some women have yet to find their true worth and value. I know and am related to females who were or are in abusive relationships. You can’t tell them nothin because both parties are very dysfunctional and missing something in their lives and don’t know how to deal with it.
I was a Chris Brown fan but the way he is going about all of this, just trying to save face. I have lost all respect for him. I wish celebrities wouldn’t try so hard to be glamorized when they are successful yet the moment they do something wrong, they say “I’m human. I’m just like you. I make mistakes.”
Well, if that were the case then don’t be surprised that you may lose fans, endorsements, etc. Don’t be surprised that you’re talked about in the media when things do wrong. They love to be talked about when things are going right. This is the J-O-B that celebrities signed up for.
Of course she will side w/ Chirs… why is this surprising to ppl. Women who are in abusive relationships, no matter how young or old, have a pyschological issues/problems when it comes to these relationships & getting out of them. This is due to the man usually shooting the women’s self- esteem down saying things like they won’t be nothing & no one wants them, but the abuser… or that woman is not pretty enough or not smart enough. Some of the women are fearful that if they leave said abuser he will come after them & kill them. Some of the women believe said abuser & think they can’t make it on their own & that the “love” that is shown is really “Love” or the excuse we always hear,some women believe that they can change said abuser & that the man “needs” them b/c he has nobody else.
As I said Rhianna is no different than any other woman who is in this situation, the only thing that can separate her is her fame & money. But no amount of fame & money can make up for self love/self worth. Once she gets that, she will tell Chris like so many other women tell their abuser loser men to kick rocks & leave… for good. I think ppl REALLY think that Rhianna is the image that she has recently portrayed, but in the same breath I think they forget that the image we have seen a late was CREATED for Rhianna. The songs that she sings about, being a woman who takes NO crap, were written for her, NOT by her. Just b/c she stalks around like she is “it” doesn’t really mean that she TRULY feels that way about herself & w/ these past incidents I think we can see that for ourselves.
Yes it is ridculous that the lawyers are all buddy buddy when they are on opposite sides of the fence, but hey what can you say when the victim is lubby dubby w/ the criminal. This is the very reason why states have the laws in tact where they can move fwd w/ cases like this b/c the victim will usually pull out b/c they fall back into the bad habit of the relationship. All one can do is hope that Rhianna sees the light & can move on. All one can do is hope that Chris is not like some abusers who would rather see the woman dead than not be w/ them… b/c if he is that kinda crazy *** sighs** the poor girl has trouble.
You know when this story first broke I hoped my youngest children, ages 12 and 14, wouldn’t hear about it. Sadly they did and came home talking about it. Finally today I sat them down and discussed it in detail. I explained things as best I could to them both- a boy and girl, and hoped they walked away understanding it is wrong to hit and be hit. Trust me, this issue is stressing out a lot of parents- especially now that Rihanna has apparently taken Chris back. I had to spend extra time explaining to my daughter that her taking him back is no excuse for his behavior.
such a HUGE EGO, why don’t you please stop being an ignoramus? At one point the car they were in came to a stop long enough for Rihanna to snatch the key out of the ignition. At that time CB began to use both of his fists on her. DUH!!! And besides, one picture is worth more than all the police reports in the world. Pull your head out and stop sounding like those buffoons over at XXL Magazine.
They are back together Rihanna lawyer was standing with chris and his lawyer i saw the video myself.People need to mind their own business
@ samia how can you say people need to mind their own business when situations like this are happening all over the world?? Thats the thing with some people in America they always wanna cover things up. NO this is real!!
She is young and hopefully she will come to her senses. Chris will have to get help and change himself. If she thinks she is going to save him she is wrong. Everyday that she is with him she is taking a chance with her life or his. B/c she could get fed up one day and go off from the beatings. I will pray for her b/c she needs it. There is no excuse for the savage way he beat her. :noway:
After reading that investigator’s report – CB needs to be hung up by his testicles & show him images of battered women..better yet show him some old photos of his mom’s beatings…then throw his *** in therapy.
Everyone needs to remember that Chris is 19! He is in a lot of pressure being in the spot light! I’m not making excuses for him because what he did is inexcusable; however they both need help!!!! He needs some serious counseling…I think he’s young enough to correct his behavior now and jail time isn’t the answer. He is very talented but obviously he has some issue as far back as his childhood…we should not judge him or give up on him…he just needs some serious help. :sad:
So he’s supposed to just sit there while she claws him to death with those Johnny Scissor hand nails???
I watched Showbiz Tonight on CNN Headline News and they reported that Kanye West and Diddy convinced Rihanna to reconcile with him and Diddy even lent his mansion for them to “reconnect”. I remember the lady who commented on that show said that if someone punched Kanye West and Diddy in the face, would they “reconnect” with them? I also heard a disturbing report that Chris Brown’s camp is trying to salvage whatever career he has left and that they actually tipped off the paparazzi when they were in Miami and when they were at the airport. My belief is someone “important” in their record company or something like that want to save BOTH careers and convinced her to get back with him so he looks good to the public. Let’s not forget, Rihanna is young and I bet you they are pressuring her like “If he goes to jail it’s your fault/ If you press charges he’ll go to jail”, y’all know what I mean, that kinda stuff. So the young lady feels guilty and bad and as do all victims of abuse do, blames herself for what’s happening.
It’s also tough cause to those crew and entourage, Chris and Rihanna are meal tickets. I guess that’s the reason why her family cannot even contact her. Did you know that some random person called 911 that night after hearing her scream. I believe if noone heard anything, we wouldn’t even know about any of this. SAD, SAD, SAD.
If he beat her the way she told the police that he did why would she go back to him 3 weeks later?!!!!!!!
Is her self esteem that low? Is getting punched in the face all she think she is worth. If everything is true… this whole situation is very, very sad and disturbing.
I don’t care how young Chris is or even if this is his first time being in trouble, he needs to go to jail, whether Rihanna presses charges or not…I tried to keep an open mind but after reading the report I feel like he tried to kill this girl.
And if Rihanna is back with Chris she is really sick and I feel bad for her, she’s setting a really bad example for young women.
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You know I lost a friend of mine to domestic violence at the age of 16 years old. He shot her in the head and that was so devistating to us all. A lot of people at my school needed counseling after that. This young lady was not on speaking terms with her mother and in turn she moved in with him (who was well in his 20s) and this was the result. I hope Rihanna’s parents get more involved. It even struck me a little odd that she would be away on vacation with Chris at such a young age. Even at 20-21 I would have heard my parents mouth if I went away with my boyfriend at that age. If they don’t become more involved, they will be sorry. Please! My dad and brother would have been protecting me like crazy, in fact, Chris might have needed an order of protection.
@Blame it on tha Rain:
I totally agree with you. You echoed my previous sentiments exactly. We DON`T know any of these celebrities. What we see in public is an image, not the real thing. Although, like anything there are exceptions. However, there are probably very few. Before these celebrities step out into the public they put their masks on as they carrry on with their charade, carefully guarding their true face. The only way we`ll ever know these people is if we could be a fly on the wall behind their closed doors, and that ain`t happenin` anytime soon..
They put on their best “smiles” for the camera and we fall for it. They`re people just like we are with their skeletons also. As I stated before, I`m a huge Michael Jackson fan but I don`t know him….All I know is the “artist/entertainer” Michael Jackson, that`s all, nothing more, nothing less. Once we, as fans, realize this the better off we will be. There is nothing that will “shock” me when it comes to these celebrities because for the most part it`s all a “charade”…
CB and Rihanna are both very young who still look at each other with those goo-goo eyes. If CB is indeed guilty of these acts they are learned from our communities/society. He`s also heavily exposed to it in the world of “Hip-Hop”. He lends an ear to those men who say, “you gotta keep your woman in her place and not let her ever disrespect you”. CB is very young, and if this is the path that he`s chosen then he has a very dark future ahead indeed.
If he continues on this path there`s nothing good that can happen. He supposedly witnessed abuse at a very young age as his mother was the victim according to him. So this is a behaviour that he begin to learn very early in life. The sad thing is that Rihanna, like so many others, is probably willing to endure more domestic violence because of twisted reasoning. Then on the other hand you have female fans of CB who still profess their undying love for him blindly, not caring that he may indeed be an abuser of women.
Of course they, too, are young and CB can do no wrong in their eyes. Domestic violence is like a powder kig that can explode into something much more serious if not dealt with. CB and Rihanna are both public figures, so there will be a lot of PR towards what`s best for their careers. He`ll probably go to therapy/anger management as part of this PR instead of really dealing with his sickness. I guess now we have all gotten a glimpse of the “real” CB. However, he`s not the only one because all these celebrities portray an image. He just happen to have been unveiled. Just remember, we DON`T know any of these peole.
Michael Jackson & The Golden 80s 4 ever!!!
this is very disturbing and sick to hear about being that these two young artists are two of my favorites. i absolutley love chris brown and his music and rihanna also she is a very talented beautiful girl. im just so shocked that chris would even consider hurting a woman. over something he was in the wrong for. rihanna just had a normal reaction she was upset that her boyfriend would have text on his phone from a pevious girl he had a relationship with. i think the only victim in this situation is rihanna and i hope that chris understands what he did and how he just basically ruined his reputation in the music industry.
Know one knows what really went on in the car…you don’t know who started it or what really happened at all. And honestly you have to be real Rihanna read a three page text from Chris’s EX…I’m sure she was pissed! You have no idea what she did or said to him…I’m not saying that what he did was right at all but what I’m saying is that they are both young adults with a lot of growing up to do. People make me sick thinking that jail is the answer for everything when jail it self doesn’t always teach anybody anything. He needs help…he saw his mother getting abused so I’m sure his temper comes from what he experienced in life. And Rihanna needs to give him some time to mature…but for real police reports are written during a time when people are pissed off and very emotional…and the fact that she isn’t pressing charges anymore shows that somethings were probably not true. I think Rihanna needs to speak up about what really happened. This is really sad but locking him up and throwing away the key wont fix it…there needs to be some rebuilding on both parts. We need to help our brothers and sisters instead of always giving up on them.
@ Pre:
Please allow me to ask you a question. So what you’re trying to tell me is that a person who is “pissed off and emotional” isn’t capable of telling the truth? Wow! As for Ri-Ri getting back with CB, she very appearently listened to P Diddy and did what he said. That only shows me how naive Rihanna is. P Diddy made a name for himself rapping. Rap is the main musical form that degrades and trivializes women. In other words, listening to P Diddy telling you what to do about your relationship problems is as bad as listening to the devil telling you how to get to heaven.
The police/prosecutors are not only going by whatever Rhianna told them, in prosecuting this case. She was beaten..everyone saw the photos and the police report noted bite marks and bruises on her neck, arms and legs. Whether she was yelling or cursing at him, he had no right to beat her. Even if she was slapping him, he should have restrained her until she calmed down. His strength as a man is a lot more than hers. He should have just walked away from the situation and kept his hand to himself.
@ Stephanie (thank you for having the conversation) and all of the mothers out there, PLEASE DO NOT shy away from a frank discussion with your sons and daughters about domestic violence. The number #1 cause of homicide for black women between the ages of 15-45 is murder by an intimate partner. This conversation should be had right along with the “keeps your legs closed and think about your future” conversation. A horrific incident indeed but if we are ever going too combat the cycle of violence against black women, we need to start having open and frank discussions about the cycle of abuse in our own community.
On a side note, if what is being reported about her failure to contact her family is true, then I am very concerned for her welfare. If anyone knows about the cycle of abuse, one thing the abuser does is make the woman dependent on him by slowly shutting out family and friends. Her family needs to stop calling her, hop on a plane and start knocking down some doors to get to her.
From what the report said Chirs hit her first, it didn’t state anything about her hitting him, plus Chris ran and posted $ 50,000 bail..What innocent man puts up $50,000 if he hasn’t done anything wrong, you can’t argue with the bruises on Rihanna’s face regardless to what we think about what happened…Until he pleads not guilty and tells another story I blelieve he was in the wrong.
Rihanna is fine and i’m okay with that, If she decide to be back with him That’ s on her
@Stephanie
I think thats what originally happened. After reading the 3 page text message she probably tried to hit him and gouge his eyes out and HE was fighting HER back in self defense while driving which lead him to bitting her. Because it just makes no since that he sat there and let you read a 3 page text message and then went off on her after with ONE HAND. Everyone else may be fooled but Im not. I have to hear his side to really try to figure out the truth. After all this she doesnt wanna take an order out on him, nor testify against him?? Please folks lets not be naieve about the situation…
Smooth Thug,
No that’s not what I said…I said, “but for real police reports are written during a time when people are pissed off and very emotional…and the fact that she isn’t pressing charges anymore shows that something’s were probably not true. ” People sometimes, when they are upset about there man cheating or talking to another women, go OFF!!! So it’s not too far fetched to believe that some things in the report were exaggerated. I’m not saying Chris is totally innocent however; there are always two sides to the story…and it needs to be investigated. People generally take the women’s side when sometimes men are provoked. Its is true that he should have just restrained her or walked away, he is a man….but he is very human and we don’t always think rationally when there is a lot of emotion. Rihanna is obviously not that bent up about it…she’s not going to testify against him…
About driving and fighting…
You mean none of ya’ll parents gave ya’ll a smack down in the car while they were driving?
:lol:
Seriously, even if she initiated contact b/c she was enraged by the text message he went way too far. I never followed Rhianna’s career so I was not aware that her parents were not involved. I don’t follow Kelly Clarkson’s career but I have seen her in pictures with her mom. I hope she humbles herself and seek their guidance and protection.
Rihanna have a restraining order on him
if you were to walk in on your man in bed with a one hit wonder,if he is an abusive guy he wud actualy beat you up in front of his catch,its the way men function,it doesnt matter if you got angry or sad it just angers men to be caught red handed or with all the facts….so we stop this excuse that she pushed him,abusive men beat you up for stupid…..all these women need to watch “Whats love got to do with it” and come back and tell us if Tina pushed Ike to beat her up,Whitney and Mary J B needs to reach out strongly to this young girl,how can famous brownsistas sitback and allow kanye and diddy mess up with this young life,atleast whitney tried to warn her,do you know that a serial killer will never harm his family and friends,and is a sweetest guy,so what does a woman abuser look like?
Totally innocent? Chris is not at all innocent! There is actually 3 sides to a story, Rihanna, Chris, and the Truth. The photos show that Chris is guilty, PERIOD. No rationalization or theory can justify Chris beating her like he did to cause that type of injuries. I don’t care if Chris was provoked, a real man knows how to keep his hands to himself.
You can argue with someone with words or you can walk away. Chris “chose” not to do that. He is in the position he is in because he “Chris Brown” put himself “Chris Brown” in that situation. Did someone put a gun to his head and make him beat her? No! If he can’t control his temper and keeping his hands to himself, thats his personally problem that should NEVER be taken out on anyone else.
I’m not saying this just because Chris is the guy. I “was” a fan of his. If Rihanna “had” hit him first, he could have kept his hands to himself and call the police ON THE SPOT! Did he do that? No! He “chose” to beat her? Why would anyone take up for someone who made a huge mistake and is now paying the consequences.
Regardless of Rihanna testifies or not, whether she is with him or not, the reason we have these laws which allows the State to prosecute “withoout” the victim is because the victim’s are twisted in the head about the situation and doesn’t know whats good for her.
My cousin called the police on her boyfriend for hitting on her. She called the police on him before many times. This last time, the cops locked him up “WITHOUT” my cousin testifying or her cooperation for 4 years. The State doesn’t need Rihanna to prosecute Chris. And thank goodness for that.
It only helps the abuser, in the end, if he accepts “RESPONSIBILITY” for their actions, “ACCEPT” the punishment, learn from it and continue to self-help regimen to better themselves.
It does Chris Brown no good at all, in the end, if he doesn’t get accept responsibility, accept the punishment, learn from it and allow that to continue with the help he needs.
If he doesn’t and he finds a way to get around it, he will only continue his abusive behavior as he has in the past. But the next time, he’ll instill enough fear into Rihanna, break her self-worth and self-respect down to the point that she has this sick twisted love for him (which he probably already done), that she won’t tell anyone, and won’t call the police.
I told my cousin when she was in the abusive relationship, “That boy ain’t gonna wake up one magical day and say I’m going to stop hitting you! There are things that “NEED” to happen before he reaches that point. You can’t change him. Change comes from within!” He is jail. Thank goodness for that. Maybe he’ll learn to stop hitting women, if not, he’ll probably be back in jail as soon as he comes out.
:iagree: Stefany, such a HUGE WATEVA!! PLZ **** OFF :hater: it is true :thumbsdown: which female is gonna fight back a man with huge arms?? she was tryin 2!! stop pickin up for chris,if he defended himself y did he have 2 beat her repeatedly!! :bag:
Totally innocent? Chris is not at all innocent! There is actually 3 sides to a story, Rihanna, Chris, and the Truth. The photos show that Chris is guilty, PERIOD. No rationalization or theory can justify Chris beating her like he did to cause that type of injuries. I don’t care if Chris was provoked, a real man knows how to keep his hands to himself.
You can argue with someone with words or you can walk away. Chris “chose” not to do that. He is in the position he is in because he “Chris Brown” put himself “Chris Brown” in that situation. Did someone put a gun to his head and make him beat her? No! If he can’t control his temper and keeping his hands to himself, thats his personal problem that he should get help for (because he wants to change, and not for his “image and career”) but it should NEVER be taken out on anyone else.
I’m not saying this just because Chris is the guy. I “was” a fan of his. If Rihanna “had” hit him first, he could have kept his hands to himself and call the police ON THE SPOT! Did he do that? No! He “chose” to beat her! Why would anyone try to take up for someone who made a huge mistake and is now paying the consequences? Jail ain’t gonna kill Chris! Man the hell up! You can hit on a woman yet scared to go to jail?! He’s wack! Man up and take responsibility for your actions! Take the punishment, learn from it, and get help! Stop pointing the finger. I hear he is now trying to blame his actions and Rihanna’s injuries on taking steriods. Please! Really Chris. . . really?
Regardless of Rihanna testifies or not, whether she is with him or not, the reason we have these laws which allows the State to prosecute “without” the victim is because the victim’s are twisted in the head about the situation and doesn’t know whats good for her.
My cousin called the police on her boyfriend for hitting on her. She called the police on him before many times. This last time, the cops locked him up “WITHOUT” my cousin testifying or her cooperation for 4 years. The State doesn’t need Rihanna to prosecute Chris. And thank goodness for that.
It only helps the abuser, in the end, if he accepts “RESPONSIBILITY” for their actions, “ACCEPT” the punishment, learn from it and get the help he needs to genuinely try to better themselves.
It does Chris Brown no good at all, in the end, if he doesn’t accept responsibility, accept the punishment, learn from it and allow that to continue with the help he needs.
If he doesn’t and he finds a way to get around it, he will only continue his abusive behavior, as he has in the past. But the next time, he’ll instill enough fear into Rihanna, break her self-worth and self-respect down to the point that she has this sick twisted love for him (which he probably already done), that she won’t tell anyone, won’t call the police, and continue to get beat.
I told my cousin when she was in the abusive relationship, “That boy ain’t gonna wake up one magical day and say I’m going to stop hitting you! There are things that “NEED” to happen before he reaches that point. You can’t change him. Change comes from within!” He is still in jail. Thank goodness for that. Maybe he’ll learn to stop hitting women, if not, he’ll probably be back in jail as soon as he comes out.
@ Pre:
An other question. So if the police report was “exagerrated” , that means that CB did in fact smack her around, right? Or am I wrong? If, for example, he smacked her 10 times when in actuality he smacked her only twice, that exaggeration of 10 smacks makes the 2 smacks OK? Does that make even one smack OK? Not in my book it does. And I don’t need to investigate both sides because the picture of Rihanna tells it all.
@ Dreia:
Your comments are so good that I notice that they posted 2 times. Thank you so very much for your wise words. :bowdown:
Where is her mother? I just don’t understand it! Are they not on speaking terms???? Her mother should be by her side through this ordeal!
Like someone here stated he has been tried and found guilty…As a black woman I will never condone domestic violence however I will also not find a black man guilty and we have only heard her side of the STORY. A story that doesn’t add up still, since when can you headlock and punch and still drive!!!! No mam Im not buying that this is the truth, not at all. Does anyone really think that she is going to tell the whole truth if it incriminates her as well??? I think not especially in the heat of the moment. One other thing that bothers me about this case is that since a cat was a kitten we have been drilled that “boys don’t hit girls” what about the other way around which I still think is the case here. I teach my daughter don’t initiate anything you know you can’t handle, we don’t know the mind of anyone else so WHY take that chance!!!! for those who say there’s no reason for a man to hit a woman i say get your head out of your a** cause I can think of a good one right now( mess with a mans child) Anywho our men have it bad enough I say wait til we know the WHOLE story before we become judge and jury. I just don’t feel like she is as innocent as everyone wants to make her out to be..Again I don’t condone domestic violence against ANYONE that includes men. Those with sons should surely understand that! Last if she likes it I love it let them do what ever they want it is non of OUR business honestly.
And FYI a REAL woman knows to keep her hands to herself period and or not stick around to catch 1-2’s Lets be smarter than that
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Aquarius please stop sister, If chris had a story to tell don’ t you think he would have spoke on it already? Sometimes i just shake my head at the way people make excuses, At this point of the story If chris could say something to save himself he would have, You know who his attorney is? If they was anything that could tarnish rihanna’ s reputation and save Chris’ s Face it would have been out by now, Please stop being another ignorant black women that claim she don’ t condone Violence but defend and abuser..Please
At this point of the story If chris could say something to save himself he would have, You know who his attorney is? If they was anything that could tarnish rihanna’ s reputation and save Chris’ s Face it would have been out by now
Well said
Rihanna needs her family here with her. She is in this country without any family. She is so vulnerable. Her mother and/or her father need to get on a plane ASAP and come be with their daugther.
@ Lizz
I was thinking about the Tina & Ike movie while I was writing my post.LOL
So true girl! My older brother would react violently when he was caught in a lie or in the act of doing something wrong by my parents or anyone else. Even if he was covered in evidence he would loudly and angrily deny wrong doing. Scary.
My prayers are with both Rihanna and Chris Brown. I say both because there are two lives and souls at stake here. Yes Rihanna is the VICTIM! That is undisputable. After reading the affidavit I am appalled. However I want to urge that Chris Brown receive just as much intervention as Rihanna. I am not a psychologist. However I do feel that we are seeing both ends of the spectrum. I am sure that aside from facing low self esteem, and feelings of isolation Rihanna her self may have witnessed domestic violence -whether that had been physical, mental, or verbal -as a child. We really don’t know much of her background her parents seem detached.
Whereas on the opposite end we know that Chris Brown has witnessed Domestic Violence which means that he is subjected to that same self-esteem issue. I know it may not come across that way however when abusers abuse they are seeking out control, because they feel inadequate or inferior. However it is clear that when you can’t control your anger you relinquish your power and submit to anger. Also take into strong consideration: Male children who witness the abuse of mothers by fathers are more likely to become men who batter in adulthood than those male children from homes free of violence (Rosenbaum and O’Leary, “Children: The Unintended Victims of Marital Violence,” American Journal of Orthopsychiatry, 1981)
It is imperative that we as a community not ostracize him, convict, or condone what he has done. I feel that he needs therapy, prayer, and understanding. Why does he need those things? First because he is impressionable still. Second because I honestly believe he is at the point where he can choose to change this behavior (and not just put out pacifying apologies). Lastly because correctional facilities are full, we pay for them, and they never correct anyone’s behavior they just conceal it.
It is equally imperative that Rihanna receives the help she needs. She needs to know that she is what every black woman is: the very best thing in this world boiled down to a drop. :brownsista: It may be hard to believe that she has low self esteem. But I heard a very popular star say once that know one knows how you can be in a room with millions of people screaming your name in praise and still feel horrible on the inside. We don’t really know how Rihanna feels but we can see that this is a horrible situation and she needs prayer, therapy and support! To wrap this long novel up; if fans have any sway, and if each camp loves the two of them as much as they claim to they will urge them to stay the heck away from each other!!!
Just because someone is beautiful and successful doesn’t mean they have a high self-esteem. Remember that people. A lot of those beautiful Hollywood women are insecure. Sad but true.
Please Aquarius… let this theory go. If he came down to ur house, dropped on his knees and admitted it, would you say… ‘hmmm Chris, i know that’s what you should say but I’m sure there’s more to the story, let’s wait til we get all of it i love you Chris no matter what.
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Yeah Chris needs counselling to try and solve the problem and needs to admit it but he also needs to reap the consequences just like your average Joe should whatever race. Him being a black man never mind a celebrity means nothing to me and doesn’t exempt him from it. If someone who was abused as a child goes on to become a serial rapist, you’d want them locked up for their crimes and public safety never mind counselling, time and love. Yeah you may understand the psychology behind it but it doesnt make it right. You do have a choice, don’t take the responsibility away from the individual if they are of sound mind.
Stephanie, Smooth Thug, Dreia and Coco :iagree: with your comments especially about the guilt she may be feeling as do a lot of victims of DV, it doesnt help that she probably has people around her who aren’t looking in her best interests. She probably just wants this to go away but that isn’t going to happen anytime soon and will be remembered for a long while. I flicked on E! when I saw the chaos outside the courtroom and one of the presenters said she was seeing a DV counsellor. I hope that’s true. I ignore every ‘report’ or ’source’ from this entire case unless it comes from you, Concrete Loop, or E!
Plus. how are ppl going to comment about how tired they are of this topic if they take time out to read the post and write comment. You’d keep it moving otherwise.
@Aquarius,
I hear exactly what you’re saying. My son’s girlfriend is always hitting and punching him whenever she feels. She even hit him in the eye and busted a blood vessle. Now, I teach him very well not to put his hands on her, but I’m getting a little tired of it. I’ve talked with her regarding this situation and now that Chris and Rhianna are in the news, I’m definitely showing him that if he decides to hit her back, he’ll be the one with the bad image and probably go to jail for putting his hands on her. That being said, this is a sad situation and looking at the pictures, she definitely received a beating. I hope that whatever the truth is, Chris receive the necessary help to understand that it just simply not acceptable to hit a woman. If the relationship is that bad or stressful, walk away. I know I have urged my son to move on and that it won’t get any better. Both men and women should keep their hands to themselves.
@Teri,
You know women also go to jail for hitting men. Why would you sit back and allow your son to be hit? Why haven’t you called the police?
Men just are less likely to call the police because as men they feel they can handle it. Its a pride and ego thing with them.
I don’t think either a man or a woman, boy or girl should get away with hiting anyone. PERIOD.
Wrong is wrong, I’m calling an spade a spade.
People keep saying “hit her back” as if there are reports to Rihanna hitting Chris first. Wrong! I’m sure if that were the case, it would be all over the television. I think thats what people want to believe that.
If Rihanna hit him first, he could have called the police. Didn’t happen.
To Dreia- I totally agree with you. There are no reports about her hitting him first. How come he hasn’t spoken up about it already if it was the case. I know Chris Brown is cute and talented but I am seeing a big trend of people who are making excuses for him. He is not even making excuses for himself.
Dreia,
Actually I haven’t sat back and allowed this to happen. As I said, I’ve talked with her about this. I’ve also talked to her parents. They are both still in High School and I’m really wanting this to stop and it has for the moment. But, you’re right – I’ll admit, letting the police handle this will put a stop to her outrageous anger. This is NOT an attempt to shed any light on the Chris/Rhianna saga. I don’t think that she deserved what happened no matter what happened in that car. This is simply a situation that hits close to home for me.
Teri,
As I stated in one of my previous comments, my cousin was in an abusive relationship. Although she would call the police on the guy, after him getting in trouble, she would go back to him, and drop the charges. The last time she called, the police picked up the charges after my cousin dropped hers. He is now serving 4 years. I couldn’t get her to leave him but at least she called the police. The State doesn’t need the victim to cooperate or testify to prosecute. Thank goodness for that because my cousin was 17 years old and pregnant when the guy would hit on her.
Sometimes calling the police and letting them document the situation is all you can do to stop a family member or friend from getting hit on, but at least you’ll feel confident that you tried doing “something.”
If you talked to her and her parents, she knows you know now. She may be more secretive next time. She needs help, without that, she may go on to hit someone else’s son. If she doesn’t get help, she may need to be put in jail until she realizes she needs the help.
This just in:
According to Associated Press reports in this morning ( March 10, ‘09 ), Tampa Bay Buccaneers football player Geno Hayes was stabbed by his girlfriend this last saturday.
CB and all of his stans are saying, “See! I told you!” :lol: