Brown Sista

When people marry overseas on islands especially, something ain’t right. This marriage is Eddie Murphy/Tracie Edmonds PART 2. I don’t give this BS six months.

I know people have always considered Mariah an airhead but not me. You don’t become as successful as she is by being stupid. She may occasionally act like she’s a child, but Mariah is without a doubt a woman very much in control of herself, her image and her career. This faux marriage however has totally caught me off guard and it seems so out of character for her. Nick Cannons runs through women as if they are going out style and he is just so beneath her. Her image and career will take a hit because the marriage seems like a publicity stunt rather than two people in love. Mariah has officially made herself appear to be the airhead people said she is and that is so sad. Why do good women thrown themselves away over no good Black men. First Whitney, then Janet, Beyonce and now Mariah.

I’M SORRY BUT I GIVE THIS MARRIAGE ALL OF 3 MONTHS, AND IT’S OVER. I MEAN THIS CRAP JUST MAKES NO SENSE. WERE THEY LITERALLY TRYING TO COMPETE WITH JAY AND BEE OR WHAT?? THIS IS THE MOST MISMATCHED COUPLE I’VE EVER SEEN. BUT I DO LOVE MARIAH( MY FAV SINGER) AND NICK IS PRETTY COOL. I JUST DON’T SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING

No anything is not possible. No matter how hard I try I cannot flap my arms and fly

Mariah just married a total and complete stranger. Of course her fans will be all up in arms at the very question of how long the marriage will last, but those of us who don’t have our heads burried in the sand know that it will be over before it starts.

We knew Eddie’s marriage was farce and so is this one. Oh and Willia I agree with you. Those overseas island marriages are usually frauds and not legal in this country.

Stephanie I must commend you on the way you handle things. Most sites have chosen to attack the couple or call Mariah names in order to get across the exact same point you are trying to make. Because Nick and Mariah married so quickly after meeting most people consider the relationship to either be a publicity stunt or just bad decision making on both their parts. None of us really know the answer but as you said, life experience teaches us that marrying strangers is not a very good idea. I too wish them luck but just don’t see how a life long bond to stay committed to one another could have been forged in six weeks. I might also add that I don’t think the problem is Mariah. She seems like a level headed woman who makes choices from the heart. It is Nick’s womanizing ways that I think has most people thinking the relationship won’t last and I have to agree with them.

And everybody is running around saying gay people should not be allowed to be married to protect the so-called institution of marriage. Yeah right, there is no way gay people could screw up marriage more than or have any less respect for it than straight people.

Every time I see pix of them two, I laugh so hard because they look so friggin funny together. Looks like she married her teen brother’s friend or something. And Nick just be poppin up with engagements rings like it’s as normal as breathing.
LOL!! They just look so damn funny together to me- I can’t get over it ya’ll!! They’ve both always been on my lamest people list so… maybe they’re a perfect match?!
HEY- Who even gives a rat’s ***?!!

It’s a publicity stunt, duh it won’t last, no one should expect it to. But it is serving its purpose…get people talking, keep Mariah’s name in your mouth. She’s got a new album out, and she’s starting a new ‘era’ so to speak with it. This is only the beginning. They were married in the islands because it doesn’t have to be official there I believe, you still have to come back and confirm it here. Marriage is hardly a symbol of love anymore (and it wasn’t in the past either), it’s something most people do to make a statement for other people. In a celeb’s case, it’s a publicity tool. If any celeb couple wanted a secret wedding, whether it’s Mariah, Beyonce, or even Nicole they would have it and no one would ever know the wiser.

I love weddings (and accordingly, wedding pictures) but I know that a wedding means zero in knowing whether or not two people actually love each other.

If it later comes out that this is for publicity, I think it will hurt her career!

WTF?! Mariah and Nick should watch out for well the next 3 months of their lives. Life is about to get hectic for the two.

Nick Cannon is a clown! They are both into themselves. He seems shallow, I wonder if he likes her without makeup and wheres he gonna be when she gains all that weight back?

You know that both got tattos of each other. I think nick got mariah with a butterfly and mariah got miss cannon on her body so it must be serious.

They knew eachother for only 6 weeks? I wish them well, but at the same time, I hope they know what they’re doing.

i wish mimi and nick the best of luck and i hope they know what they are doing and its real. mariah dont need anymore publicity stunts in her life. it might just work. for the person who said jay is a no good man to bee, then i want a no good man just like him. i think he spoils her to death and really seems to respect her. i wish them the best too.

Maybe Nick is the one who’s pregnant.

Let me stop. Nick is my boy….Ha!

Everyone is so surprise you have people doing the same thing all the time. But i think they had mess around before. Good luck to both of them. She deserve happiness and he probably the one to give it to her.

Congratulations Mariah and Nick I wish you the best. It doesn’t matter if its six weeks, six years, sixteen years or twenty-six years people can bust up after supposedly knowing someone for any length of time. No one really knows someone so you hope that you’re more compatible to make it work instead of holding on to the belief that time will assure longevity in a relationship like marriage. I hope Nick and Mariah are friends and hold to that first and respect each other. I’m not hatin because too many people who comment on blogs are often hatin on folks because they wish they could do it or live that life themselves. That’s my take on the marriage.

^^^^^ I could’nt agree with u more.

I have nothing to say except that i don’ t think mariah waited so long to get married to divorce again
some people need to really make up their minds
as soon as someone let their love be known there goes people speculating judging poiting fingers!
let them be !!! looks happy unlikeothers that dont even admit being married

I personally don’t think you can fall “in love” with someone in 6 weeks (famous or not), I believe in “like” and “lust” at first site, but not love at first site. If they are the real deal, then Congrats and I wish them the best.

Shock the hell out of me! Thought for sure she would marry some white dude. Glad it’s a brotha. We usually don’t get women that look like her or of her status. They usually don’t date us. Yall know it’s true and if they do it’s on the low. Wow. Isn’t she old enough to be his mother?

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She’s only doing it to steal the attention from Jay and B. She’s just trying to sell records. Utterly ridiculous.

i dated my husband 4 yrs before marrying him! i know for a fact its no way you can get to know each other and know the things you would need to know to make a marriage work in 6 wks. MARRIAGE IS NOT A GAME…ITS TAKES ALOT OF WORK to make it work and last! yeah every relationship begins with infactuation, lust and the euphoria feeling but when that ish goes away….HONEY you better have MAD TRUST LOVE RESPECT AND ADMIRATION for that person to want to continue on and put that work in!

that said i dont buy this ish for one damn minute! and if it is real eventually they will both come to and end up looking like big dummies in the media! all for attention! not all attention is good!

At first, I was like the rest and thought, this will never last, what were they thinking, they are fools etc. and honestly even though I still probably think that way, these are two people who regardless of what we think, believe they have found love. Sometimes people make grand gestures or don’t know how to act when it hits them so hard. Everyone knows what its like to fall in love and to really believe your in love. They are not the first either to get tats of each other’s name on themselves, their just in the punlic eye so everyone feels they can judge. You and I have both made some shameless mistakes when in love, but when they were done, you really believed in what you were doing at the time. Love affects people in different ways. Look at Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey. They did everything the proper way and their marriage came to an end. All you ever hear Mariah talk about is the awful marriage she had to Tommy Mottola, so i’m sure for her to be in a marriage again is a huge deal and says what kind of person Nick must be. How many of us have friends that fall in love like everyday and even though they’ve had their heart broken, well still go all out for the person they are currently in love with. Honestly, with love, you either love big or you lost out.

i completely agree with everything you said and couldnt have worded it better myself…
still though, i wish them the best

Brownee, I love the image of yourself you have next to your comments. Makes me feel”REAL” secure and doesn’t bore me at all.

Lol, Del your last statement makes absolutely no sense. And I see that a few others have picked up on your self-loathing commentary. I saw that garbage you spewed in the Halle Berry baby thread.

Nef Chocolatepeach, you summed it all up. Thank you, I didn’t have the patience. Colorstruck people are insecure plain and simple.

Mariah’s first husband was white. She was once engaged to another white dude (Spaniard), now she’s married to Nick. So what? Ever occur to you she gets involved with men for whom they are?

My husband is a light skinned Latino. I can’t tell you many brown/dark brothers have had remarks about my husband’s skin tone/ethnicity. I’ll tell you like I tell them: Insecurity looks bad on a woman, and even worse on a man.

Just because you date someone for 3, 4,or 5 years does that mean that you REALLY know them. People have dated for years gotten married and come to find out their significant other has a completely separate life, children and other “wives”. Mariah Carey and Nick Cannon are both “RICH” if they marry and divorce tomorrow who gives a flip.

@Del

I’m going to preface this by telling you I’ve been married twice, both times to black men. I have a black husband and black father, five black sons, four black brothers and I love them all.

I live black love, I appreciate it and I hope for all of my brothers and sisters to get an opportunity to experience it.

However,
I also pay attention to the reality of life for many black women. I applaud you and other black men who believe so strongly in black love–but perhaps we would be better served if those of you who “have it together” would really get serious when telling other black men about the ways they (some, not all) destroy black women’s hearts and hopes.

How long can anyone expect black women to remain alone and feel unwanted, unhappy, unappreciated and unattractive simply because so many black men have fallen victim to the idea that a non-white woman is the epitome of womanhood and the “prize”? What are those sisters to do? Die lonely? If anyone has to shoulder the blame for so many black women finally deciding to seek love in the arms of non-black men…it is black men.

It may not be YOU, but do you check your friends when they bash black women? Do you correct them when they talk about how “gorgeous” a Kim Kardashian look-alike is but how “OK a Jennefer Hudson look-alike is? When you hear them talk about how ALL black women are “mean” “hateful” “evil” “gold diggers” blah blah blah…do you correct them and point out that you know and married a black woman who is none of those things?

Women are made in a way that we long and live to be loved and to be cherished. It is just the way we are made. If we don’t get that–it affects our spirit and our demeanor. So what do we tell the black woman who just longs to be loved and cherished-but who is watching her counterpart–the black man–chase every non-white woman he can find while ignoring and belittling her? What are they to do? How long should we expect them to wait?

My husband (who is black) defends black women in his conversations with brothers—and I’ve seen other black men get very upset that he has the gaul to tell them that Black women should be respected.

I love being able to go home and night and tell my husband “baby–such and such happened today…and I really feel like it was…” and have him be able to finish my sentence with “yes…it sounds like racism to me too”. There is comfort in that. However, I have to be fair to other sisters and acknowledge that if they have been unable to find that love in a black man–then they need to be able to find it SOMEWHERE.

I have a lot of passion for the hearts of black women-so I made it my mission to try to tell sisters something positive everyday. I stop black women in the street and will tell them how pretty they are (yes..I get some weird looks so I always have to tell them I’m not gay…) but you know what..they don’t need to hear it from ME they need to hear it from YOU and men like you. Until they do hear it, you will continue to see non-black men, who do appreciate their beauty, step in and take up the slack.

And if you truly feel this passionately about black love, then perhaps it is your mission in life–and the reason you are here. What are you going to do about it?

No disrespect Nef, but if a black woman is feeling “alone” and feeling “unwanted, unhappy, unappreciated and unattractive” simply because they aint got no man, then they got WAY more to worry about than if he’s black or not.

Wow, this is a very interesting conversation. I`m still trying to gather my thoughts as I attempt to expound on the subject.

First let me start by saying that I`m also a proponent of black love. However, love for our women is greatly lacking in our communities as a whole. Why do I say this? Well you need not go far to hear some of our brothers referring to our sistas as B*****s H**s every single day. In fact you don`t even have to leave your home, just turn on the radio and watch some of those videos where our sistas are greatly degraded. In fact, I dare say that collectively we have more respect for the white woman than we do of our own women. As men our biggest problem is that we consider it to be weakness if we show love and compassion for our women. You see the norm is that we must be HARD at all times never letting our guard down.

So what do we do in the process? We push our women farther and farther away and eventually she`ll seek love elsewhere. It is indeed true that we, as mortal beings, do need love and companionship. If not then God would have never created woman. What did he say? He said, “It is not good that man should be alone, I will make him a help meet”. Thus woman was created. What was God conveying to us? Simply that man needs companionship. That`s the moral of the story of creation. Also he made all the creatures of the sea and of the field each to it`s own kind, both male and female. So if God commanded this for his other creatures then why wouldn`t he do the same for his superior creature, which is man? If you study all the creatures of the sea, field, etc. the female is always in search of a fitting male.

So brothas I ask you, why wouldn`t it be the same for our sistas? Are not they greater than these? You see we really don`t understand this creature called woman because we don`t take the time to acquaint ourselves with her. We don`t ask her about her day, nor do we set aside personal time to really converse with her on a daily basis. How can you know me if you never talk to me. In a sense of speaking our sistas are like total strangers. When you familiarize yourself with one mentally it is then that you begin to connect on a higher level. So if we don`t want our sistas to venture outside the family then we, men, must step up to the plate and begin to have dialogue. We must first learn how to respect them, for without respect you can not love.

We must drop the idea that showing love, respect and compassion is a sign of weakness. I say to you that it takes more of a man to love and respect his women than it does to not do so. Just study the lion when it comes to his pride and his offspring. He will protect them with his life. Are not we greater than these?

Nefertari and Terence, I completely co-sign your statements.

Smooth Thug, relájese papi? Lol

Del, you are self-contradictary. Halle has white mother, sorry no matter one’s phenotype their DNA doesn’t evaporate into thin air. The woman is juat as much white as she is black. Also, I’m sure she didn’t just want a model to have a baby with, you put it. To hear you talk you would swear people only fell in love with the exterior. Are you aware of the fact she is partially deaf in one ear (60-80% I believe) from a beating she took at the hands of an ex, who happens to be a famous black man? She went on to date and marry black men for years after that. So if she happen to find love with a man, who is white… what’s the big deal?

Halle, or any other black female celebrity, has never publicly bashed black men. On the other hand, we have black male celebrities who have made bashing black women a part of their report, some may say a sport. This behaviour has seemed to trickle down into black culture at-large, and not just with the youngs guys as you say. Be outraged about that if anything!

Also, Nick Cannon has never dated a black woman. All the women he has been involved with are white, bi-racial/mixed. Are you ever mad at him then? Or are you just “glad” those women are dating brothers? Do you ever look at him and accuse him of selling out the black woman, the way you accuse Halle of “selling out the black man”? You seem more concerned with brown sistas dating non-brown men. And quite frankly it seems to be more of an issue of your ego than some great interest of “black love”.

And as for my “papi”, I hope you know those ships went everywhere from Canada to Brazil and everywhere in between. My mother is an Afro-Latina, born and raised in Venezuela, Naomi Campbell’s skintone. My father is a bi-racial (black & East Indian) man from the Caribbean, and often gets mistaken for caucasian, just like Mariah. To the uninformed they appear to be a white man married to a black woman, imagine how goes at times. I say all that to say, things aren’t always as black and white they seem; as some try to make it.

Intelligence? I’ve got more intelligence by accident than you’ve got on purpose! Name calling? Don’t play dumb. “Papi” is a racist comment and you know it. Calling somebody’s husband “Papi” was not the “topic of discussion” and you know that too.You don’t like being called something out of your name, then stop calling us something out of ours! I’ll make you a deal. If you stop the name calling, then I’ll stop the name calling too.
Ms. “Brownee”, por favor desculpeme. I momentarly lost my head. You have my word that it won’t happen again.

Brownee, you have gotten away from what the topic at hand was, and that is the marriage of Mariah and NIck.As far as him only dating other races and avoiding my sista’s if that was the case then he was just as wrong as some of the others I mentioned. And you are right Halle was abused by a brother which is wrong as well. I know who you are referring to. But that is my point. You can’t run away from us because of a few bad seeds and yes she did marry a couple brothers’s that may not have known what they had. I couldn’t believe Eric. And I still haven’t heard of her marrying “model guy”. As far as bashing she didnt speak too highly of Eric to Oprah. All I’m saying is back in the day a lot of the brotha’s felt like she was ours. It just would have been great her finally ending up with a brotha. And if any brotha is bashing a sista they are wrong in what they are doing and I have a problem with that. As far as my ego? My ego is fine, I’m secure in my own and unlike your boy Smooth Thug seems to think, I’m not racist. If I’m racist about anything it’s how a lot of us black men are portrayed and treated in society. Perfect example, the Philidelphia beatings caught on tv. Those young black men did not deserve to be beaten like that. Now Smooth Thug to my understanding the term “Papi” as I have understood it means Dad or Father and that’s all I’ve ever heard it used as. If it means something “racial”…..explain. And bro you don’t have to make me any deals. Again I have partners and co-workers who are latin. One of my favorite actors is Esai Morales, favorite drummer Sheila Escovito, actress Eva Mendez, favorite pin up Gloria Velez. So bro personally trying to attack me is not going to change my view, comments or opinion of either of the topics that Brownee wants to bring up. But I’m not going to use this site to get into a personal attack space between you and I.We enough of that going on back in L.A. My 5 year old loves the term “Papi” and as long as he’s referring to me as his daddy we both are going to continue using the word until I say otherwise. And my man if standing behind the idea of Black Love to you is racist..whateva..Brownee I still love that pic..lol.

“All I’m saying is back in the day a lot of the brotha’s felt like she was ours.” I cannot begin to tell you how embarrassingly ridiculous that statement is.

Del, you seem like a decent enough person, but you simply don’t seem to get it (on numerous levels). Also, you can’t see how self loathing and racist your comments are, but at least 5 other posters can.

Smooth Thug, lol, no worries sweet peach.

Flo, you made a whole lot of sense. All I can say: don’t limit yourself, you’re accountable for your own happiness.

And Del, yes, I love the pic also. The model’s skin reminds me of mi madre’s, a gorgeous chocolate Latina.

So many of you sitting here running your mouths are hypocrites. You have attacked Beyonce and Jay-Z for cherishing their relationship and keeping it private and yet you praise Mariah and Nick for this obvious publicity stunt. Have any of you seen the new pics of them at Disney World? When I saw those pics I nearly puked. Hell yeah we calling it like we see it. This isn’t Black love. Hell Nick doesn’t even date Black women. He dates mixed, white and Latina women. But that’s besides the point. Mariah concocted this farce of a marriage for publicity reasons and it is so obvious. Look at her. When she’s with Nick she is looking dead into the camera cause that is all she cares about. She is selling this marriage to the public and I give it less than a year. This woman is a joke. I believe Nick may really care for her but Mariah is using him.

None taken bro. I appreciate that. I really do. Thanks. It took me awhile to find you. Brownee you are a work of art. To you I’m racist. Whatever. You remind of the type of a sista that just loves to pick a fight for the hell of it. You have what you want and that’s on you. You chose to be with someone that is not black. If not being with a brotha is your thing hey you got it. You didn’t want a brotha so me preaching black love does not apply to you. I don’t expect for you to agree with me, even more understand where Im coming from. So close your ears this might hurt. I’m talking to the brothas that are married to a black woman. Keep the marriage safe and worship your wife. To all the black woman who have a black husband do the same and stand behind your man, cause we sure need ya. To all the brothas who have a black girlfriend aint nothing like it. While you’re single do your thing. To my sistas that have a black boyfriend cherish him show him off, but hey if he cant hang kick him to the curve and find you another that will treat you like the queen you are. My lady Flo, A lot of the brothas that you have encountered and have experienced don’t realize what they see or have the opportunity to have. Here in Texas a lot of women wear their hair in an afro or braids. There is nothing more exciting than seeing a beautiful black ,dark skinned woman with an afro!! No matter what shade you are, you are all queens. Dont give up on us and dont believe every white guy that comes along because they can be deceiving too. When I was younger and worked for American Airlines in the department I was in, I was the only black male there. I used to hear them bragging amongst themselves in the bathroom how they banged the crap out of that spook last night they met at the club. How at the bar she couldnt keep her hands off him. LOL!I ALWAYS GOT WRITTEN UP!. Smooth Thug cherish what you have man. They can be a blessing, even Brownee…… or not.

Lol, Brownee would it have been better if I had said woman of color then? As opposed to black love? lol. Its not that serious. To point out how much black Mariah has in her is very petty, and I after reading some of your posts, I think you are extra sensitive about race and complexion issues. (And based on your past history I can in part, why you are.) In fact you were the one who felt insulted earlier about comments regarding brown skin/white men vs black men, etc. However I think its ironic that the first thing you point out is about race. You preach about loving some one regardless of skin color, but you just had to point out that Mariah has less african ancestry in her than others. Seems contradictory to me.

I’m just saying.

-Mikela

“Del”, first of all, thank you so very much for accepting my apology. I cherish my wife and my marriage with all of my heart. We’ve been married now for over 25 years and it gets better and better and better with each passing day. Marriage is as marriage does; if it works, it works; love is as love does. If it happens, it happens. Ms. “Brownee”, where did you learn your Spanish? Tu Papito? Tu familia? You are very good at it. You also know the basic nuances of when and how to use it to get across the feelings and emotions involved in the particular situation you are in in a given moment. Further, you know the Latino mentality, the Latino heart, the Latino soul. “Del”, please Google “David Ortiz”. He is a Black man from the Dominican Republic in the Caribbean. Here in Los Angeles we have the Dodgers. But they’re not my favorite. My favorite is the Anahiem Angels (And Kobe Bryant and the Lakers ). My favorite Angel is Vladamir Guerrero… among us Angele fans he’s known as “Vlady “Who’s Yo Daddy?” Guerrero”. Again, a Black man from the Dominican Republic… a Black man, yet he speaks Spanish. Here is just one example of the common ground that is shared between me, you, Ms. “Brownee”, just to name a few. The common ground is: 1) these 2 particular gentlemen are black. You and Ms. “Brownee” are black. 2) these 2 gentlemen are also Latino. I’m Latino as well. So in a socio/politico/economic/ historical sense, the 3 of us are related. We are members of what I like to call ” The Pan Afro/Latino Community”. Now with that in mind, let us all, Black, Brown, and Red “move forward, in a possitive direction that is designed to promote the general welfare, advancement and common good of our respective communities”. “Del”, take care and be blessed. Ms. “brownee”, mi corazoncita , take care and be blessed.
From My heart,
Smooth Thug

@Flo

You don’t hate black men…you love them, but you are hurt at what you feel is their rejection. You aren’t to blame, they are. But you also can’t let their sickness poison you or make you doubt your beauty. Racism has made them sick–so sick that they can look at their own woman, and believe that she is anything less than perfect. I love black men, but often, I am disappointed in the seeming willingness to allow themselves to continue this stupidity. Just keep in mind that its not ALL of them. Preserve yourself, focus on your inner beauty and worth and know that you will find (or he will find you) the man who loves you and cherishes you.

“Nefertari”, I think being Afro/Latino is OK too. I know what you’re sayin”.

@Brownee, you have called me almost everything under the sun. But the one name that stands out is racist for me believing in black love. I dont believe I have called you anything outside of your name. Nefertari hmmm. Mind you these are just just images from the form of an idea. When you see the family of lets say the show “Good Times”, The Walker family what do you see? Or maybe The Huxtables, what do you see? How about The Parkers, what do you see?At the end of the day exactly what do you see? I’ll tell you what you see. In all of these families that can be just as real as someones idea, is a family that loves each other no matter what obsticles they have to face in their daily lives. You dont see a break down of each one of their bloodlines! Thats all Im saying and will continue to say. Nefertari, you telling me I secretly admire women who look non-black is hilarious! Brownee at the end the day when that police officer is beating the crap out of you, he is not going to stop and ask you, “Oh by the way do you have any dominican in you?” All he see’s is black. Stop trying to anaylize everything and look at what I’m saying. When I look at The Walker family from Good Times and they are wondering if James is going to keep his job after the day, I dont wonder if Thelma has any asian in her. When I see the Monique character from The Parkers explaining to her daughter why her dress is too short, I dont wonder if Monique half white. All I see is black. Again Brownee/Nefertari at the end of the day its a black family that is showing the love they have for one another. Now those are characters from tv but they are out there in real life as well. Damn didn’t this site just have this topic some time ago based on Obama and Michelle? Forget about Nick and Mariah Brownee kicked them to the curve 4 days ago. Did you all try and tear down that topic? Did you call the editor racist for even bringing it up? Matter of fact who is over this column and shame on her for even putting it out there. What was she thinking? Wow!!…..racist, ego, self loathing, and a fool….wow. My apologies to this site and to all of the people who have read it. Brownee and Nefertari you two black women are the best!